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Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:23 pm
by brucesutterHOF
This season was always shot. At least he was an innings eater. 6 man rotation of mikolas fedde sonny palante mcgreevy libby was always the answer. Now what that Palante’s arm is shot? Cutting Fedde made no sense

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:24 pm
by ecleme22
brucesutterHOF wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:23 pm This season was always shot. At least he was an innings eater. 6 man rotation of mikolas fedde sonny palante mcgreevy libby was always the answer. Now what that Palante’s arm is shot? Cutting Fedde made no sense
It only seems knee jerk because you’re used to Mo.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:26 pm
by VegasVinny
In his last five starts before being DFA'd, Fedde went:

3.2 IP
5.0 IP
1.1 IP
4.2 IP
3.0 IP

He wasn't eating innings and he was objectively ineffective. It was willful negligence on the part of the St. Louis Cardinals, LLC to continue allowing him to participate in the sport.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
by sdaltons
I'll generally agree with this. The decision would have made some sense if they had ended up acquiring a MLB pitcher or two at the deadline. But even with that possibility open, the timing was odd. And we've since been told they had a specific type of player they were targeting at the deadline and MLB pitcher wasn't it.

So dropping Fedde for being bad whilst plenty of others were also bad and it was clear we would need innings, yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense. At least DeWitt saved some cash though!!

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:41 pm
by renostl
VegasVinny wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:26 pm In his last five starts before being DFA'd, Fedde went:

3.2 IP
5.0 IP
1.1 IP
4.2 IP
3.0 IP

He wasn't eating innings and he was objectively ineffective. It was willful negligence on the part of the St. Louis Cardinals, LLC to continue allowing him to participate in the sport.
Hindsight can suggest that the last possible date to trade Fedde and receive a return was June 24.

There were a couple of starts where Fedde could have been left in the game longer.
2 games he had only given up 3 runs. 3 were lopsided games like last night.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:41 pm
by Jatalk
Hindsight makes us all geniuses.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:43 pm
by renostl
Jatalk wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:41 pm Hindsight makes us all geniuses.
Exactly.
Especially when trying to predict humans with any certainty.

Which is this thread

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
by Absolut
Blah. I’d rather see McGreevy and Graccefo

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
by Ozziesfan41
brucesutterHOF wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:23 pm This season was always shot. At least he was an innings eater. 6 man rotation of mikolas fedde sonny palante mcgreevy libby was always the answer. Now what that Palante’s arm is shot? Cutting Fedde made no sense
Cutting him made perfect sense not trading him in the offseason made no sense

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:48 pm
by ScotchMIrish
VegasVinny wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:26 pm In his last five starts before being DFA'd, Fedde went:

3.2 IP
5.0 IP
1.1 IP
4.2 IP
3.0 IP

He wasn't eating innings and he was objectively ineffective. It was willful negligence on the part of the St. Louis Cardinals, LLC to continue allowing him to participate in the sport.
Would have been useful in a game like yesterday when Pallante gave up 7 runs in the first 2 innings. Get Pallante out and let him rest his arm instead of having him throw 90 pitches for the 8th time in the last 10 games when he clearly has a tired arm.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 13:51 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
Are you kidding? He became unpitchable. We have 2 more there, or nearly there. If it weren't so close to the end of the season the Cardinals would have to deal with them. As it is, they will probably ride it out.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 14:01 pm
by KeeptheRamsinSTL
brucesutterHOF wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:23 pm This season was always shot. At least he was an innings eater. 6 man rotation of mikolas fedde sonny palante mcgreevy libby was always the answer. Now what that Palante’s arm is shot? Cutting Fedde made no sense
The Braves released him. Maybe the Cardinals can bring him back to help improve draft position.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 14:03 pm
by rockondlouie
Have to disagree.

Fedde was an obvious DFA, so is Pallante.

Mikolas would be too but Mo would be admitting yet another blunder extending him.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 14:13 pm
by sdaltons
Inning coverage ought to be more of a priority right now than success. We have a few good, young arms but we don't have enough depth to do right by them, which would likely be shutting them down.

I see Fedde was putting up short starts. What were his pitch counts in those games? If he was coming out way early, those numbers don't really tell the story. We need some vets to take the ball and throw 100 pitches. Just to account for a few innings so others don't have to cover them.

That list might as well have included Fedde or a similar deadline acquisition at a low cost, if there was one available (there seemingly always is).

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 27 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
by imadangman
KeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: 27 Aug 2025 14:01 pm
brucesutterHOF wrote: 27 Aug 2025 13:23 pm This season was always shot. At least he was an innings eater. 6 man rotation of mikolas fedde sonny palante mcgreevy libby was always the answer. Now what that Palante’s arm is shot? Cutting Fedde made no sense
The Braves released him. Maybe the Cardinals can bring him back to help improve draft position.
I was just gonna say this.

Re: Knee Jerk Reaction to Cut Fedde was dumb

Posted: 28 Aug 2025 20:44 pm
by Bad14
We're reaching to complain when we lament the Fedde DFA