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There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:03 am
by Shady
Here's something to consider. How does Burleson's development and production compare to first rounders Walker and Gorman? It kind of helps to put Burleson's current performance status into perspective.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:06 am
by Absolut
Here’s something to consider. How does it compare to 13th round Albert Pujols? Perspective, as you make more Burleson garbage threads than Pujols threads at his peak…
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:08 am
by ecleme22
I think Gorman has a good chance of passing Burleson in OPS.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:10 am
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am
I think Gorman has a good chance of passing Burleson in OPS.
How about BA, RBIs and K rate?
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:17 am
by rightthinker4
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:03 am
Here's something to consider. How does Burleson's development and production compare to first rounders Walker and Gorman? It kind of helps to put Burleson's current performance status into perspective.
No criticism. Burleson is a good solid player.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:18 am
by 3dender
<people push back reasonably on the half dozen Burleson HOF threads that are started each day, mostly by Shady>
Shady: goshdarn all this Burleson criticism, probably just need a few more HOF threads to drown it out!
... have you considered that if you didn't start threads about him all the time that people wouldn't criticize him? That you, in fact, are spawning much of the criticism yourself?
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:19 am
by Shady
rightthinker4 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:17 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:03 am
Here's something to consider. How does Burleson's development and production compare to first rounders Walker and Gorman? It kind of helps to put Burleson's current performance status into perspective.
No criticism. Burleson is a good solid player.
I agree, However, there are lots of negative vibs on the recent OP, "Burleson is a star" thread.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:20 am
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:10 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am
I think Gorman has a good chance of passing Burleson in OPS.
How about BA, RBIs and K rate?
Batting average: OPS and OBP are more important. Gorman has a good chance of surpassing AB in both.
RBIs: In RBI per PA, Gorman is already better.
K-Rate: Doesn't matter. OPS and OBP matter.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:20 am
by rockondlouie
Gorman career
1486 PA's
73 HR
.434 slg%/.740 OPS
Burly career
1459 PA's
46 HR
.420 slg%/.738 OPS
Good to see both are looking good the last three months.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:21 am
by imetsatchelpaige
3dender wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:18 am
<people push back reasonably on the half dozen Burleson HOF threads that are started each day, mostly by Shady>
Shady: goshdarn all this Burleson criticism, probably just need a few more HOF threads to drown it out!
... have you considered that if you didn't start threads about him all the time that people wouldn't criticize him? That you, in fact, are spawning much of the criticism yourself?
AMEN
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:22 am
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:20 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:10 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am
I think Gorman has a good chance of passing Burleson in OPS.
How about BA, RBIs and K rate?
Batting average: OPS and OBP are more important. Gorman has a good chance of surpassing AB in both.
RBIs: In RBI per PA, Gorman is already better.
K-Rate: Doesn't matter. OPS and OBP matter.
Are you endorsing Gorman to take Burleson's place as the regular #3 hitter in the lineup?
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:24 am
by Shady
3dender wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:18 am
<people push back reasonably on the half dozen Burleson HOF threads that are started each day, mostly by Shady>
Shady: goshdarn all this Burleson criticism, probably just need a few more HOF threads to drown it out!
... have you considered that if you didn't start threads about him all the time that people wouldn't criticize him? That you, in fact, are spawning much of the criticism yourself?
I didn't start the recent "Burleson is a star" OP. Also, that's kind of my point with all the Burleson criticism. Why not focus more on some other players' lack of production compared to Burleson's production. By the way, I consider Burleson's offensive production as one of the few bright spots on this team.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:27 am
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:22 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:20 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:10 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am
I think Gorman has a good chance of passing Burleson in OPS.
How about BA, RBIs and K rate?
Batting average: OPS and OBP are more important. Gorman has a good chance of surpassing AB in both.
RBIs: In RBI per PA, Gorman is already better.
K-Rate: Doesn't matter. OPS and OBP matter.
Are you endorsing Gorman to take Burleson's place as the regular #3 hitter in the lineup?
LOL, no. I'm not making lineup endorsements.
I'm just saying NG has a good chance of surpassing AB this year in some essential offensive categories.
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:29 am
by Shady
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:27 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:22 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:20 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:10 am
ecleme22 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 am
I think Gorman has a good chance of passing Burleson in OPS.
How about BA, RBIs and K rate?
Batting average: OPS and OBP are more important. Gorman has a good chance of surpassing AB in both.
RBIs: In RBI per PA, Gorman is already better.
K-Rate: Doesn't matter. OPS and OBP matter.
Are you endorsing Gorman to take Burleson's place as the regular #3 hitter in the lineup?
LOL, no. I'm not making lineup endorsements.
I'm just saying NG has a good chance of surpassing AB this year in some essential offensive categories.
Gorman's K rate is still a huge problem for him. IMO
Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:30 am
by 3dender
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:24 am
3dender wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:18 am
<people push back reasonably on the half dozen Burleson HOF threads that are started each day, mostly by Shady>
Shady: goshdarn all this Burleson criticism, probably just need a few more HOF threads to drown it out!
... have you considered that if you didn't start threads about him all the time that people wouldn't criticize him? That you, in fact, are spawning much of the criticism yourself?
I didn't start the recent "Burleson is a star" OP. Also, that's kiund of my point with all the Burleson criticism. Why not focas more on some other players' lack of production compared to Burleson's production.
Hence why i said "mostly"... and you started probably at least 90% of the pro-Burly threads leading up to that one, so you are by far the single individual most responsible for the backlash.
Basically this is you:
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Re: There still seems to be a lot of criticism of Burleson
Posted: 27 Aug 2025 11:31 am
by Carp4Cy
Shady wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:03 am
Here's something to consider. How does Burleson's development and production compare to first rounders Walker and Gorman? It kind of helps to put Burleson's current performance status into perspective.
Burly is a bat, and that's about it. He's not an elite bat, not an all star. Maybe a 2 WAR player. Maybe hits 20 HRs 70 RBIs. That's servicable but nothing special.
Problem is a good team like we had in the Pujols years had 6-7 bats on that level or higher. Now we have 2-3.