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High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 11:30 am
by Shady

Re: Marmol REALLY likes Burleson

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 11:34 am
by Mort Gage
He's a role player and he can make a nice living at it. In the offseason they should listen to trade offers as he's not a foundational piece. At least not for a team that wants to contend.

Re: Marmol REALLY likes Burleson

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 11:45 am
by Shady
Mort Gage wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:34 am
He's a role player and he can make a nice living at it. In the offseason they should listen to trade offers as he's not a foundational piece. At least not for a team that wants to contend.
He should have some trade value, for sure, at 26 and coming into his prime. "Alec Burleson has transformed his approach to become a top-30 hitter in the National League based on his WRC+, which checks in at 120, meaning his offense is 20% better than average".

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 11:49 am
by imetsatchelpaige
He has an OPS+ of 120.
He is hitting .285.
He has 15 HR.
His WAR is 1.5.
He is a bargain at the price.
He is the one positive offensive player on this entire team, and you guys wanna trade him.
Insane.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:00 pm
by Mort Gage
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:49 am He has an OPS+ of 120.
He is hitting .285.
He has 15 HR.
His WAR is 1.5.
He is a bargain at the price.
He is the one positive offensive player on this entire team, and you guys wanna trade him.
Insane.
He has value, but frankly not much upside. 1.4 bWAR over 3/4 through the season isn't that impressive. If a team needing a LH bat wants to offer someone like a minor league CF with potential to start by '27 you listen.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:01 pm
by NYCardsFan
You are a psychopath.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:07 pm
by rage-STL
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:49 am He has an OPS+ of 120.
He is hitting .285.
He has 15 HR.
His WAR is 1.5.
He is a bargain at the price.
He is the one positive offensive player on this entire team, and you guys wanna trade him.
Insane.
Trading Burly feels like a case of having to give to get. If you can swap Burly for a major league starter with upside, I think they’d be crazy not to pull the trigger.

Re: Marmol REALLY likes Burleson

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:08 pm
by Wattage
Mort Gage wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:34 am
He's a role player and he can make a nice living at it. In the offseason they should listen to trade offers as he's not a foundational piece. At least not for a team that wants to contend.
Hes not a prime pujols goldy or arenado but hes an above average bat that doesnt have many. If you trade him are ypu really gonna get anything better in return. While i dont think hes untouchable, yet thats another lineup spot you now need to replace on a lineup already full of many holes.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:08 pm
by rockondlouie
People like to rave about J. Chourio

Chourio

17 HR
67 RBI
.276 .311 .474 .785

Bumbles

15 HR
59 RBI
.285 .337 .449 .786

The problem is he has no real "field" position given 1st base is covered by a superior hitter WillyC (19 HR/70 RBI/.263 .345 .463 .808).

Sure he can be stationed in the OF but he can't "play" it well: -3 OAA

BUT

Like last season when he faded horribly in Aug/Sept (3 HR/.243 .313 .326 .639),

he also showing signs of fading again in Aug (1 HR/.280 .321 .360 .681).

He has to show he won't fade away in Aug/Sept.

And the reason he could be traded is he has value, no real field position here and competition (Hererra/Gorman) at DH.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:12 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
rage-STL wrote: 23 Aug 2025 12:07 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:49 am He has an OPS+ of 120.
He is hitting .285.
He has 15 HR.
His WAR is 1.5.
He is a bargain at the price.
He is the one positive offensive player on this entire team, and you guys wanna trade him.
Insane.
Trading Burly feels like a case of having to give to get. If you can swap Burly for a major league starter with upside, I think they’d be crazy not to pull the trigger.
There’s a value opposition out there that probably makes sense. But it better be a decent piece and return, and that piece better be standing on a mound.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:17 pm
by Jatalk
Whether it makes sense to trade him depends on return obviously but also if WC waives his NTC.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:23 pm
by Pura Vida
He's a natural, plays multiple positions and a keeper.

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:28 pm
by scoutyjones2
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:49 am He has an OPS+ of 120.
He is hitting .285.
He has 15 HR.
His WAR is 1.5.
He is a bargain at the price.
He is the one positive offensive player on this entire team, and you guys wanna trade him.
Insane.
WillyCon is an offensive player (bleep)..
But you be you

OPS+ 126
19 HRs
WAR 2.3
Top 5 1b defensively
:roll:

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:31 pm
by Mort Gage
Pura Vida wrote: 23 Aug 2025 12:23 pm He's a natural, plays multiple positions and a keeper.
Thanks, Shady

Re: High praise for Burleson's progress

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 12:54 pm
by renostl
Jatalk wrote: 23 Aug 2025 12:17 pm Whether it makes sense to trade him depends on return obviously but also if WC waives his NTC.
Exactly.

He's had his best season. He cost nothing. Projecting he has
more immediate future than some on this roster in the cOFer/1B/ DH role.

Unless they sign a Bellinger or trade for a Stowers or Ward he currently needs to be kept
over those other roster players.

Re: Marmol REALLY likes Burleson

Posted: 23 Aug 2025 13:10 pm
by renostl
Mort Gage wrote: 23 Aug 2025 11:34 am
He's a role player and he can make a nice living at it. In the offseason they should listen to trade offers as he's not a foundational piece. At least not for a team that wants to contend.
Maybe.
How do his number as a outfielder compare to
Frelick, Hernandez, Castellanos, Nimmo, Kwan, Arozarena, Duran
all playoff teams.
Just as important,
How do they compare to
Walker, Nootbaar, and Donovan