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there's a name from the past !

got his first win today since 2023, beating the Blue Jays 2-1

5 innings
2 hits
6 SO
1 BB
1ER (one of the two hits was a solo HR)

good for him

Watched the game. Pitched well. Let's see how he does next. In St Louis he would have a Great game then stink the next time out

Let's not forget that his first outing was 1 IP, 3BB, 2 H, 2ER, and 3Ks.
I was happy he was traded (he and Malcom Nunez for Quintana and Stratton). He has a career 13-25 W/L, 1.408 WHIP and 4.36 ERA (before today).
He's amazingly still only 27.

has he been hurt and not pitching?

Dude would be a tor guy in StL with those career numbers.

I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

I figured he could be at least a #3.. he's got a better arm than he's showing. not sure what the problem is? control? health? head full of rocks?

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 12:31 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

I figured he could be at least a #3.. he's got a better arm than he's showing. not sure what the problem is? control? health? head full of rocks?

He had TJ.

greyhawk wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 17:16 pm has he been hurt and not pitching?

First major league starts returning from Tommy John surgery (December 2023) and he suffered a lat injury in spring training that set him back.

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 12:31 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

I figured he could be at least a #3.. he's got a better arm than he's showing. not sure what the problem is? control? health? head full of rocks?

Pretty harsh assessment on a guy who is less than 35 IP (6 major league innings) into his return from major injury.

An Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 13:27 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 12:31 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

I figured he could be at least a #3.. he's got a better arm than he's showing. not sure what the problem is? control? health? head full of rocks?

Pretty harsh assessment on a guy who is less than 35 IP (6 major league innings) into his return from major injury.

and what was he before the injury?

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 13:34 pm

An Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 13:27 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 12:31 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

I figured he could be at least a #3.. he's got a better arm than he's showing. not sure what the problem is? control? health? head full of rocks?

Pretty harsh assessment on a guy who is less than 35 IP (6 major league innings) into his return from major injury.

and what was he before the injury?

Pretty solid first full season as a starter in 2023 with upside.

An Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 13:37 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 13:34 pm

An Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 13:27 pm

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025 12:31 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

I figured he could be at least a #3.. he's got a better arm than he's showing. not sure what the problem is? control? health? head full of rocks?

Pretty harsh assessment on a guy who is less than 35 IP (6 major league innings) into his return from major injury.

and what was he before the injury?

Pretty solid first full season as a starter in 2023 with upside.

and the upside is what I was referring to

greyhawk wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 17:16 pm has he been hurt and not pitching?

He got tommy john in 2023-2024 offsesson and is just coming back

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 18:08 pm I admit I thought we would all regret that trade and he’d be a number two somewhere for a long time. Guess I was wrong on that .

He had tommy john after 2023. Just coming back now. He was solid 4th/5th starter in 2023

The guy has better stuff and upside than Pallante and McGreevy. If he will maximize it is another question.