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Nootbaar

Posted: 11 Aug 2025 21:19 pm
by Bomber1
Did he get hurt?

I know he started.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 11 Aug 2025 21:23 pm
by JuanAgosto
Bomber1 wrote: 11 Aug 2025 21:19 pm Did he get hurt?

I know he started.
Took a foul ball

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 11 Aug 2025 23:24 pm
by icon
Bomber1 wrote: 11 Aug 2025 21:19 pm Did he get hurt?

I know he started.
Whatever, he as 0-3 before leaving. I hope Bloom sees him for what he is, not for what Mozeliak THINKS he is.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 11 Aug 2025 23:45 pm
by swatski
Just a guy.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 00:06 am
by Bob Kunush
Bomber1 wrote: 11 Aug 2025 21:19 pm Did he get hurt?

I know he started.
To answer your question, yes he got hurt hitting a foul ball off of his knee.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 07:20 am
by 3dender
icon wrote: 11 Aug 2025 23:24 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 11 Aug 2025 21:19 pm Did he get hurt?

I know he started.
Whatever, he as 0-3 before leaving. I hope Bloom sees him for what he is, not for what Mozeliak THINKS he is.
I hope there are still some teams out there who THINK he might be better than he actually seems to be.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am
by An Old Friend
If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 07:49 am
by 3dender
An Old Friend wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player
4th year in a row people have been saying that about him. Never played more than 117 games in a season and is the poster boy for components not adding up to the sum of their parts.

On top of that he seems to have changed his approach this year to get more aggressive, which has made him even worse (increase K-rate, lower BB and OBP). So at this point he's got mental stuff to work through in addition to making sure none of his many, many ouchies are interfering with his swing.

They need to cut bait and hope some team still sees it like you just said it. Rarely has there been a more obvious change-of-scenery guy.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 07:57 am
by rightthinker4
3dender wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:49 am
An Old Friend wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player
4th year in a row people have been saying that about him. Never played more than 117 games in a season and is the poster boy for components not adding up to the sum of their parts.

On top of that he seems to have changed his approach this year to get more aggressive, which has made him even worse (increase K-rate, lower BB and OBP). So at this point he's got mental stuff to work through in addition to making sure none of his many, many ouchies are interfering with his swing.

They need to cut bait and hope some team still sees it like you just said it. Rarely has there been a more obvious change-of-scenery guy.
I think he’s more suited for the Japanese league.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:05 am
by reson8
Noot is at best a 4th OF until he actually does something to prove us all wrong. IMO he's run out of time to do that here.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:09 am
by 3dender
rightthinker4 wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:57 am
3dender wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:49 am
An Old Friend wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player
4th year in a row people have been saying that about him. Never played more than 117 games in a season and is the poster boy for components not adding up to the sum of their parts.

On top of that he seems to have changed his approach this year to get more aggressive, which has made him even worse (increase K-rate, lower BB and OBP). So at this point he's got mental stuff to work through in addition to making sure none of his many, many ouchies are interfering with his swing.

They need to cut bait and hope some team still sees it like you just said it. Rarely has there been a more obvious change-of-scenery guy.
I think he’s more suited for the Japanese league.
I think he's a fine OBP-heavy 125 OPS guy with flashes of power (50 XBH and 15-20 HR)... best case scenario. That is a nice player to have and a good 2nd-best corner OFer on a winning team. If he's trying to be more than that though he will end up being worse. And if teams depend on him to be more than that then they will probably not have good OF production.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:24 am
by Bomber1
Bob Kunush wrote: 12 Aug 2025 00:06 am
Bomber1 wrote: 11 Aug 2025 21:19 pm Did he get hurt?

I know he started.
To answer your question, yes he got hurt hitting a foul ball off of his knee.
Thanks!

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:26 am
by Bomber1
An Old Friend wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player
I’m starting to wonder if Nootbaar will ever have a fully healthy and productive year.

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 08:28 am
by Adam2
I have nootbaar fatigue. The hot streaks he goes on no longer offsets the following month long hitless streaks and nagging injuries

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 09:53 am
by Goldfan
3dender wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:49 am
An Old Friend wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player
4th year in a row people have been saying that about him. Never played more than 117 games in a season and is the poster boy for components not adding up to the sum of their parts.

On top of that he seems to have changed his approach this year to get more aggressive, which has made him even worse (increase K-rate, lower BB and OBP). So at this point he's got mental stuff to work through in addition to making sure none of his many, many ouchies are interfering with his swing.

They need to cut bait and hope some team still sees it like you just said it. Rarely has there been a more obvious change-of-scenery guy.
AOF has a cool speed swing vid of ole Noooter😂😂😂
‘His slash lines foretell a breakout NL player when he plays a full season’ :lol: :lol:
The time and seasons wasted on some of these guys is crazy……please have FO in place after Mo who can tell a fraud from a real player

Re: Nootbaar

Posted: 12 Aug 2025 10:00 am
by Futuregm2
3dender wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:49 am
An Old Friend wrote: 12 Aug 2025 07:37 am If he has a fully healthy and productive year, someone will see him as a Brandon Nimmo type of player
4th year in a row people have been saying that about him. Never played more than 117 games in a season and is the poster boy for components not adding up to the sum of their parts.

On top of that he seems to have changed his approach this year to get more aggressive, which has made him even worse (increase K-rate, lower BB and OBP). So at this point he's got mental stuff to work through in addition to making sure none of his many, many ouchies are interfering with his swing.

They need to cut bait and hope some team still sees it like you just said it. Rarely has there been a more obvious change-of-scenery guy.
His approach hasn’t necessarily changed, but his biggest change has been launch angle.

LA
2021: 12.1
2022: 10.7
2023: 7.2
2024: 6.0
2025: 17.7

And his Infield pop up has also gone up dramatically from 8.7% in 2023 and 3.7% in 2024 to 11.2% in 2025.

His chase rate is up a little bit, but still low at 21%. Walk rates and K% are still at good levels.

His average EV a career best. Hard hit% a career best. Barrel% down a tiny bit from last year at 9.3%.