Will Walker ever hit?

Welcome to STLtoday.com's forum for fans of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators

Post Reply
timoevans
Forum User
Posts: 73
Joined: 10 Jul 2024 22:36 pm

Will Walker ever hit?

Post by timoevans »

Will he ever hit Major league pitching? How long do we give guys like him and Gorman?
DickyBennett
Forum User
Posts: 1145
Joined: 03 Jun 2024 08:57 am

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by DickyBennett »

As currently constructed, absolutely not

He has no base, he lunges, he needs a total makeover

He needs a change of scenery in another organization, it's obvious the Cardinals can't teach him the required hitting adjustments.

Time to move on.
bakker
Forum User
Posts: 228
Joined: 04 Dec 2022 16:43 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by bakker »

timoevans wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:47 am Will he ever hit Major league pitching? How long do we give guys like him and Gorman?
It would have been nice if he ever mastered AAA pitching. I just don't get why they don't go to him and come to terms that he could have a long profitable career in baseball but this isn't working. You are going back to AAA to get more grounded away from the majors. We want you to be the starting RF next year. Show us you can do it.
timoevans
Forum User
Posts: 73
Joined: 10 Jul 2024 22:36 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by timoevans »

He looks like a great guy. It is terrible that we do not have anyone that can teach him to hit the right way? Another wasted talent. Carlson #2
Hoosier59
Forum User
Posts: 911
Joined: 16 Dec 2022 12:03 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by Hoosier59 »

To be fair, he had been hitting almost .290 since the All-Star break, but since Nootbaar has returned, his playing time has suffered, and as could be expected, his confidence as suffered with it. He’s also pressing again now, his last two games, just trying to stay in the line up. The Cardinals really couldn’t have handled him much worse than they have!
Oli had him batting 9th, last night. In his mind, do you really think Jordan thinks he’s a 9th place hitter? Don’t you think he might press and try to prove he’s not? The Cardinals have a history of doing this to players, and allowing them to “ not be who they’ve always been “ but causing them to try and be something else.
BrummerStealsHome
Forum User
Posts: 2351
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:12 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by BrummerStealsHome »

The first thing the Cardinals should have done entering this (don't call it a) rebuild is replace the coaching staff. But this organization has gone overboard with loyalty and did not do so. Their hitting approach remains poor and their pitching approach ruins pitchers. Look at Fernandez. He was effective in the minors, came up throwing effectively, then for some friggin' reason decided to change his delivery and he's sucked ever since. Hello?!
WeeVikes
Forum User
Posts: 293
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:06 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by WeeVikes »

BrummerStealsHome wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:11 am The first thing the Cardinals should have done entering this (don't call it a) rebuild is replace the coaching staff. But this organization has gone overboard with loyalty and did not do so. Their hitting approach remains poor and their pitching approach ruins pitchers. Look at Fernandez. He was effective in the minors, came up throwing effectively, then for some friggin' reason decided to change his delivery and he's sucked ever since. Hello?!
So then the question becomes, is there not a consistent approach to these things throughout the organization? I thought they taught the same batting, pitching, fielding philosophy and approach from Rookie ball to MLB. Am I wrong about that? (Knowing me, I could be!)
BrummerStealsHome
Forum User
Posts: 2351
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:12 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by BrummerStealsHome »

WeeVikes wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:36 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:11 am The first thing the Cardinals should have done entering this (don't call it a) rebuild is replace the coaching staff. But this organization has gone overboard with loyalty and did not do so. Their hitting approach remains poor and their pitching approach ruins pitchers. Look at Fernandez. He was effective in the minors, came up throwing effectively, then for some friggin' reason decided to change his delivery and he's sucked ever since. Hello?!
So then the question becomes, is there not a consistent approach to these things throughout the organization? I thought they taught the same batting, pitching, fielding philosophy and approach from Rookie ball to MLB. Am I wrong about that? (Knowing me, I could be!)
I don't think they do anymore, at least during Marmol's tenure.
ramfandan
Forum User
Posts: 5078
Joined: 27 May 2024 19:52 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by ramfandan »

The sad part is that he hit well his rookie year.
He hit 16 HR’s and had a .276 batting average.
Ironically, that.276 was higher than both Goldy and Arenado in 2023.
Voldemort
Forum User
Posts: 3847
Joined: 06 Aug 2022 18:21 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by Voldemort »

As long as he stays vertically stacked, he will never hit at the MLB level.

Image
WeeVikes
Forum User
Posts: 293
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:06 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by WeeVikes »

BrummerStealsHome wrote: 06 Aug 2025 11:17 am
WeeVikes wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:36 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:11 am The first thing the Cardinals should have done entering this (don't call it a) rebuild is replace the coaching staff. But this organization has gone overboard with loyalty and did not do so. Their hitting approach remains poor and their pitching approach ruins pitchers. Look at Fernandez. He was effective in the minors, came up throwing effectively, then for some friggin' reason decided to change his delivery and he's sucked ever since. Hello?!
So then the question becomes, is there not a consistent approach to these things throughout the organization? I thought they taught the same batting, pitching, fielding philosophy and approach from Rookie ball to MLB. Am I wrong about that? (Knowing me, I could be!)
I don't think they do anymore, at least during Marmol's tenure.
Well, that seems to add up, doesn’t it?
JuanAgosto
Forum User
Posts: 5705
Joined: 01 Jul 2021 21:30 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by JuanAgosto »

Not unless Bloom cleans house and brings in a top notch coaching staff.

Not unless Walker trusts this staff and makes adjustments.
JohnnyMO
Forum User
Posts: 541
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:17 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by JohnnyMO »

The odds say probably not at this point. But he’s still young and plenty of prospects are post-hype stars, so I wouldn’t give up completely yet. I would put him in AAA next season and leave him there until September call ups pretty much regardless of performance.
Absolut
Forum User
Posts: 12143
Joined: 12 Jan 2020 20:06 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by Absolut »

He went to azfl and did very well.
Next spring he started strong (against low level pitching) and faded.

Cards in need of a bat jumped the gun and brought him up and tried to mess with his swing and approach while he tried to learn to be an everyday mlb hitter and learn a new position.


They mind (bleep) him and set him up to fail.
Red Bird Classic
Forum User
Posts: 556
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:52 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by Red Bird Classic »

Hoosier59 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:01 am To be fair, he had been hitting almost .290 since the All-Star break, but since Nootbaar has returned, his playing time has suffered, and as could be expected, his confidence as suffered with it. He’s also pressing again now, his last two games, just trying to stay in the line up. The Cardinals really couldn’t have handled him much worse than they have!
Oli had him batting 9th, last night. In his mind, do you really think Jordan thinks he’s a 9th place hitter? Don’t you think he might press and try to prove he’s not? The Cardinals have a history of doing this to players, and allowing them to “ not be who they’ve always been “ but causing them to try and be something else.
If Walker can't handle the pressure of Nootbaar as competition, then he has a paper mache ego.

Try again?
Red Bird Classic
Forum User
Posts: 556
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:52 pm

Re: Will Walker ever hit?

Post by Red Bird Classic »

BrummerStealsHome wrote: 06 Aug 2025 10:11 am The first thing the Cardinals should have done entering this (don't call it a) rebuild is replace the coaching staff. But this organization has gone overboard with loyalty and did not do so. Their hitting approach remains poor and their pitching approach ruins pitchers. Look at Fernandez. He was effective in the minors, came up throwing effectively, then for some friggin' reason decided to change his delivery and he's sucked ever since. Hello?!
I see some Cardinals are hitting okay. Why didn't the Cardinal coaches mess Donovan, Winn, and Herrera up too?

Maybe the problem is Walker?
Post Reply