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Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:43 am
by rockondlouie
Why the h e l l is Oli wasting starts on this guy?

He's not got any future at all with the 2026 team and certainly isn't a "runway" player.

If MO won't do his job and DFA him (today), then Oli needs to have the stones to pull him from the rotation.

I don't care if you give his starts to G. Graceffo, call up Q. Mathews or throw a bullpen game!

But in no way, shape or form should this clown Mikolas be given one more start.

Conjure up an injury, put him on the 60 day IL and let the clown sit in the dugout playing with his stupid hamburger phone.

if he agree to that, then stick him in the pen' as the mop up guy.

Do your job while you have one Oli, pull this batting practice pitcher from the rotation and use those starts to evaluate a true "runway" pitcher.

Enough wasted starts on Mikolas. :x

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:44 am
by ScotchMIrish
Front office has thrown in the towel on 2025. Start Mikolas or bring up a minor league player and start his service time clock - those are the choices.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am
by 45s
his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:47 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Here’s my thought. 3 of the 4 prior starts, he pitched into the sixth inning; as a number five, in a rebuild, with no one to call up.

You’ll see him five days from now.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:51 am
by Basil Shabazz
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
I did.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:53 am
by desertrat23
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:47 am Here’s my thought. 3 of the 4 prior starts, he pitched into the sixth inning; as a number five, in a rebuild, with no one to call up.

You’ll see him five days from now.
They’re at Busch five days from now. Very, very few people will see him.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:55 am
by Lloyd Braun
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
I'm glad he got 200 wins on a last place team.

It's almost as if it's two completely different situations, with two completely different circumstances

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:57 am
by Futuregm2
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
Obviously Mikolas is not in the same camp as Wainwright.

Wainwright hadn’t already been one of the worst pitchers in baseball the previous 2 years prior to that last year, unlike Mikolas.

Mikolas over his last 89 starts: 25-33 5.06 ERA 484 IP 542 H 73 HR

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:58 am
by 45s
Basil Shabazz wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:51 am
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
I did.
well.....there is at least one guy who agreed with me...

prepare to be attacked..

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 08:59 am
by desertrat23
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
Big difference between the second-most successful pitcher in team history and some loser who ate a lizard once.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:01 am
by Bully4you
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:43 am Why the h e l l is Oli wasting starts on this guy?

He's not got any future at all with the 2026 team and certainly isn't a "runway" player.

If MO won't do his job and DFA him (today), then Oli needs to have the stones to pull him from the rotation.

I don't care if you give his starts to G. Graceffo, call up Q. Mathews or throw a bullpen game!

But in no way, shape or form should this clown Mikolas be given one more start.

Conjure up an injury, put him on the 60 day IL and let the clown sit in the dugout playing with his stupid hamburger phone.

if he agree to that, then stick him in the pen' as the mop up guy.

Do your job while you have one Oli, pull this batting practice pitcher from the rotation and use those starts to evaluate a true "runway" pitcher.

Enough wasted starts on Mikolas. :x
Yes sir!!!!!!!!!
You happen to be exactly correct here.
It really boils down to just how horribly run the Cardinals are.
There is no viable reason to keep starting this guy.
He's finished.
Get some reps from some youth in AAA.
The only reason I can think of is that they don't want to hurt Mikolas's feelings.
That is the only possible reason and that is not a reason at all in this business.
Shouldn't be managing a team if you're worried about hurt feelings.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:01 am
by 45s
Futuregm2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:57 am
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
Obviously Mikolas is not in the same camp as Wainwright.

Wainwright hadn’t already been one of the worst pitchers in baseball the previous 2 years prior to that last year, unlike Mikolas.

Mikolas over his last 89 starts: 25-33 5.06 ERA 484 IP 542 H 73 HR
not buying it
pro sports is a what have you done for me lately....two years priors is irrelevant

what wainwright did previously did not justify him stinking it up in 23

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:03 am
by 45s
desertrat23 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:59 am
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
Big difference between the second-most successful pitcher in team history and some loser who ate a lizard once.
no there isn't

if a player stinks....ne need to go

history is irrelevant

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:06 am
by Futuregm2
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:01 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:57 am
45s wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:46 am his numbers are better than wainwright in 2023

I don't remember anyone wanting to DFA him...
Obviously Mikolas is not in the same camp as Wainwright.

Wainwright hadn’t already been one of the worst pitchers in baseball the previous 2 years prior to that last year, unlike Mikolas.

Mikolas over his last 89 starts: 25-33 5.06 ERA 484 IP 542 H 73 HR
not buying it
pro sports is a what have you done for me lately....two years priors is irrelevant

what wainwright did previously did not justify him stinking it up in 23
It was one bad season. They weren’t going to DFA a pitcher that was as successful as Wainwright when it was his last year. Especially once it got to the point where the season was done. Which really was before he even threw a MLB pitch that season. They were 10-23 that season before he even threw a pitch.

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:08 am
by rockondlouie
Bully4you wrote: 06 Aug 2025 09:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Aug 2025 08:43 am Why the h e l l is Oli wasting starts on this guy?

He's not got any future at all with the 2026 team and certainly isn't a "runway" player.

If MO won't do his job and DFA him (today), then Oli needs to have the stones to pull him from the rotation.

I don't care if you give his starts to G. Graceffo, call up Q. Mathews or throw a bullpen game!

But in no way, shape or form should this clown Mikolas be given one more start.

Conjure up an injury, put him on the 60 day IL and let the clown sit in the dugout playing with his stupid hamburger phone.

if he agree to that, then stick him in the pen' as the mop up guy.

Do your job while you have one Oli, pull this batting practice pitcher from the rotation and use those starts to evaluate a true "runway" pitcher.

Enough wasted starts on Mikolas. :x
Yes sir!!!!!!!!!
You happen to be exactly correct here.
It really boils down to just how horribly run the Cardinals are.
There is no viable reason to keep starting this guy.
He's finished.
Get some reps from some youth in AAA.
The only reason I can think of is that they don't want to hurt Mikolas's feelings.
That is the only possible reason and that is not a reason at all in this business.
Shouldn't be managing a team if you're worried about hurt feelings.
Thx bully

I wonder if Oli wants to yank him and Mo, embarrassed for giving him yet another unwarranted extension, keeps insisting he get starts in some vane attempt to save face (and you're not accomplishing that Mo, he's making you look stupid w/every start).

Re: Why waste another start on Mikolas?

Posted: 06 Aug 2025 09:08 am
by Goldfan
Please drop me a note when this organization starts making BASEBALL Decisions that make any sense…… ::crazya:: ::crazya::