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Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm
by DickyBennett
Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
by Francis Park Thug
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:10 pm
by hmoss859
It’s called roster redundancy and it’s all on Mo!

The Brewers roll out 7 very good athletes/baserunners in every day lineups and actually know that drawing walks leads to runs

The Cardinals have 2 guys with speed (Winn and Scott)

Meanwhile the rest of the slugs swing for fences in a pitchers park half their games

Milwaukee approach is smart and that’s why they win

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:10 pm
by Hazelwood72
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Perfectly said and I totally agree. I can’t add anything more.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:14 pm
by bccardsfan
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
I agree totally as well. You cannot have guys like Burley clogging up the bases. Usually you have a slow catcher, but everyone else should be at least major league average with a few younger fast guys sprinkled in. I will be interested to see what Bloom does to change the roster in the off season. If Bernie notes this you know darn well that the Bloom stat geeks are aware of it.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:31 pm
by blackinkbiz
The Cardinals LITERALLY brought back Matt Carpenter and Lance Lynn for nostalgia and leadership. They signed some pedophile looking guy TWICE during the 2023 season when LITERALLY no other team in MLB would even offer him a tryout. They signed that donut-eating fat*ss from San Fran and gave him a huge role (and likely dozens of free rolls) when it was clear the guy wans't even replacement level any longer. They have a manager who has never even managed anything besides the Cardinals in MLB.

Cardinals live in a fantasy world. The Brewers sign guys to compete.

It's a sad state of affairs.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
by General
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 19:54 pm
by bccardsfan
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.
Right now I would say the Brewers are a far better run org than the Cards under MO the last few years. Hopefully Bloom will be better.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:06 pm
by hmoss859
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.
Hit a nerve huh?

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:10 pm
by 2ninr
It's no big revelation by BM that we are slow. And that ours has been a poorly run organization for the better part of 10 years and that we have a poorly constructed, redundant roster. Most of the posters who are realistic about this team know that.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:12 pm
by Braund241
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.
To true. Always vote Mo and fifth place. Bet I know the way you vote.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:17 pm
by General
hmoss859 wrote: 05 Aug 2025 20:06 pm
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.
Hit a nerve huh?
I really didn’t mean to offend Brewers fans like yourself. I hope you’ll recover.

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:19 pm
by General
Braund241 wrote: 05 Aug 2025 20:12 pm
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.
To true. Always vote Mo and fifth place. Bet I know the way you vote.
What is the Cardinals record since Mo took over compared to the Brewers record over the same time period. Throw in playoff wins and WS wins too. I take from your response that the Brewers have had a greater success?

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:20 pm
by Ozziesfan41
The biggest problem is the cardinals don’t have power or speed. It’s hard to score runs when most of the hitters suck and the team doesn’t have speed or power

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:23 pm
by Ozziesfan41
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 20:19 pm
Braund241 wrote: 05 Aug 2025 20:12 pm
General wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:43 pm
Francis Park Thug wrote: 05 Aug 2025 19:08 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 05 Aug 2025 18:31 pm Been preaching this for years, too many dough boys on this roster


LIMITED ATHLETICISM. NOT ENOUGH WAYS TO SCORE RUNS

This is where I bring the division-rival Brewers deeper into the discussion. The Crew ranks 4th in the majors with an average of 4.98 runs per game. Milwaukee has only three more home runs than St. Louis, and the Cardinals have stroked 27 more doubles than the Brewers.

So how do the Brewers continue to pile up runs despite having limited power?

– Milwaukee leads the NL and is second overall with 124 stolen bases. The Cardinals rank 21st overall and 12th in the NL with 63 steals.

– It isn’t just the steals; the Brewers use their elite team speed to motor around the bases and put pressure on the other team’s defense. According to Statcast, as a team Milwaukee is second in the majors for average sprint speed, and the Cardinals are 24th. This is a large reason why FanGraphs ranks the Brewers No. 1 in the majors at 13.5 base-running runs above average; the Cards are 26th at minus 4.7 below average in base-running runs.

– Another way to put it: the Cardinals are sorely lacking in athleticism. And unless you have a team that thunders its way to imposing home-run totals, you probably need some higher-level athletes who can use their speed to create runs. The Cardinals, as a team, can’t do that. Yeah, Victor Scott can do it … but he doesn’t get on base enough. Besides, I’m talking about overall team speed, athleticism and baserunning as a runs-generating source.

– This speed game helps in other ways that add up. For example, Milwaukee has the second-lowest percentage in the majors at hitting into ground-ball double plays. No question, the speed factor helps them beat out throws to first base in double-play scenarios.

– Another speed-related bonus: the Brewers are among the MLB leaders for infield hits. And their .274 batting average on ground balls is the best in the National League. And the speed is at least some factor in Milwaukee’s .304 batting average on balls in play – which is 10 points higher than STL.

– Another way to put it: the Brewers are a helluva lot smarter than the Cardinals in the vital task of roster construction. But you already knew that, right? That IQ battle was won – in a rout – by Milwaukee many years ago.
Everything he said is spot on. Who can disagree?
TLDR but I’ll disagree.

First off, Bernie is borderline regarded so anyone posting his garbage is immediately discounted.

As for whatever this argument is, don’t ever hold up the Brewers (or the Rays for that matter) as some kind of model organization when they haven’t come remotely close to even appearing in the WS since 1982. Those losers can’t even win a playoff series so anyone who wants the Cardinals to emulate the Milwaukee Freaking Loser Brewers has no understanding of baseball or how to be a winner.
To true. Always vote Mo and fifth place. Bet I know the way you vote.
What is the Cardinals record since Mo took over compared to the Brewers record over the same time period. Throw in playoff wins and WS wins too. I take from your response that the Brewers have had a greater success?
Keep living in the past lol

Re: Great breakdown Bernie regarding Brewers vs Cards

Posted: 05 Aug 2025 20:26 pm
by hmoss859
Some on here live in the past

Some live in the present