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Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm
by Web7
Mo really sucks at his job so bad

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm
by Jobu's Rum
How much team control does Rogers have left?

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm
by TopofthePerch
Web7 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm Mo really sucks at his job so bad
He isn't half the loser and tool you are.

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:26 pm
by ZouMiz2424
TopofthePerch wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm
Web7 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm Mo really sucks at his job so bad
He isn't half the loser and tool you are.
Why do you guys defend one of the pillars that ruined the cardinals so much ?

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:26 pm
by DickyBennett
Jobu's Rum wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm How much team control does Rogers have left?
Free Agent to be just like Helsley

Horrible job Mo, just horrible

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:27 pm
by Ozziesfan41
You aren’t going to get much for a closer who they are hitting .400 against his fast ball is a two month rental and they can’t offer him QO. Too many people believed Mel that the correct decision was to keep helsley and fedde and trade them at the deadline because their value would be higher than in the offseason. Easy obvious wrong. Both should have been traded in the offseason when me and others were saying it

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:28 pm
by WLTFE
Web7 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm Mo really sucks at his job so bad
Truly 'bazar '

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:31 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Roger's what?

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:32 pm
by Hoosier59
The Mets did give up more to get Roger’s. Phillies gave up Abel+, Blue Jays gave up more for Dominguez.
I don’t like this trade at all. We got 3 guys who probably will never see the majors.

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:33 pm
by Ace
Literally nothing could have made less sense than targeting a small project middle”project” middle infielder.

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:34 pm
by Wattage
Jobu's Rum wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm How much team control does Rogers have left?
Rogers is a free agent just like helsley but has a 1.8 era and 0.86 whip while helsley has 3.00 era and 1.39 whip.

But Rogers also pitched in 70+ innings and 68+ games 4 yeats in a row while helsley has never putched 70 innings or more than 66 games and only pitched more than 54 games once and frequently makes himself unavailable- says he can never pitch 3 nights in a row- and doesnt like to pitch back to back nights too often either.

Im not quite sure why they thought helsley is worth more other than the save stat. Rogers has clearly been better and more available in a game to game basis

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:35 pm
by Wattage
Web7 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm Mo really sucks at his job so bad
Rogers has been far better than helsley though

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:35 pm
by AnExParrot
ZouMiz2424 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:26 pm
TopofthePerch wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm
Web7 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm Mo really sucks at his job so bad
He isn't half the loser and tool you are.
Why do you guys defend one of the pillars that ruined the cardinals so much ?
Some complaints, like this one, are so [fork]ing stupid it's a moral imperative to do something about them.

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:38 pm
by Jobu's Rum
Wattage wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:34 pm
Jobu's Rum wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:25 pm How much team control does Rogers have left?
Rogers is a free agent just like helsley but has a 1.8 era and 0.86 whip while helsley has 3.00 era and 1.39 whip.

But Rogers also pitched in 70+ innings and 68+ games 4 yeats in a row while helsley has never putched 70 innings or more than 66 games and only pitched more than 54 games once and frequently makes himself unavailable- says he can never pitch 3 nights in a row- and doesnt like to pitch back to back nights too often either.

Im not quite sure why they thought helsley is worth more other than the save stat. Rogers has clearly been better and more available in a game to game basis
Fair point, I don't like Moe that much as he has driven the org into the dirt. But not mad at THIS haul, but hopefully this one turns out to favor the Cards this time

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:41 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
Hoosier59 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:32 pm The Mets did give up more to get Roger’s. Phillies gave up Abel+, Blue Jays gave up more for Dominguez.
I don’t like this trade at all. We got 3 guys who probably will never see the majors.
Weird. Those teams gave up more for pitchers who have either been better, are younger, have more team control, or some combination of those things??

That's crazy!!

Re: Mets gave up more to get Roger’s

Posted: 30 Jul 2025 18:43 pm
by Futuregm2
Web7 wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:24 pm Mo really sucks at his job so bad
Baez’s scouting report shows 60 power and 60 arm. 50 hit and he’s a 50 overall prospect. That’s not exactly a bad return for Helsley. And then throw in the pitchers they got, too.

Blake Tidwell and Drew Gilbert, the best prospects SF got, were both 45 overall prospects with Gilbert having 50 hit/45 power.

Not sure if you’re bad at math, but 50>45.