Page 1 of 2

lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm
by Futuregm2
After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 12:57 pm
by HighHeet
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
8O :lol:

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
by rockondlouie
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:32 pm
by redbirdfan51
Gray would definately approve that trade, Nado is playing Riley's position.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
by Futuregm2
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
by rockondlouie
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
by Futuregm2
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.
Edmonds had one “down” year, which was mostly due to injuries. Riley had a 114 OPS+ last year and is at 108 this year. He has 33 HRs over his last 890 PAs.

SLG%
2021: .531
2022: .528
2023: .516
2024: .461 *put it as a one off “slump” in a season where he started slow*
2025: .428 *now it’s become concerning*

That’s not a good trend in the prime of a player’s career. And when there is $150+ million still remaining on the deal, that hurts the trade value.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:53 pm
by 82birds
a couple of oldies two days in a row.
Braves fans must be beside themselves, not in a good way

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:07 pm
by rockondlouie
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.
Edmonds had one “down” year, which was mostly due to injuries. Riley had a 114 OPS+ last year and is at 108 this year. He has 33 HRs over his last 890 PAs.

SLG%
2021: .531
2022: .528
2023: .516
2024: .461 *put it as a one off “slump” in a season where he started slow*
2025: .428 *now it’s become concerning*

That’s not a good trend in the prime of a player’s career. And when there is $150+ million still remaining on the deal, that hurts the trade value.
I'd still make that deal 100/100 times

Riley is a much more surer bet than Gorman at 3rd base (assuming they can move on from NADO).

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:11 pm
by Futuregm2
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:07 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.
Edmonds had one “down” year, which was mostly due to injuries. Riley had a 114 OPS+ last year and is at 108 this year. He has 33 HRs over his last 890 PAs.

SLG%
2021: .531
2022: .528
2023: .516
2024: .461 *put it as a one off “slump” in a season where he started slow*
2025: .428 *now it’s become concerning*

That’s not a good trend in the prime of a player’s career. And when there is $150+ million still remaining on the deal, that hurts the trade value.
I'd still make that deal 100/100 times

Riley is a much more surer bet than Gorman at 3rd base (assuming they can move on from NADO).
Well he better be, it’s a $22 million per year for 7 years bet that you’re making. And after what we’ve seen with Arenado’s power being sapped I’d be cautious.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:14 pm
by An Old Friend
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
I think each of their 5 opening day starters is or was on the 60 day IL

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:23 pm
by Quincy Varnish
82birds wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:53 pm a couple of oldies two days in a row.
Braves fans must be beside themselves, not in a good way
They lost Sale, Schwellenbach, Lopez & now Holmes. They should probably just give up… but at least they’re trying to patch their rotation together without pushing players to the majors that don’t belong there yet. Two calamitous seasons in a row for the Braves… their fans must be suicidal, but what is their FO supposed to do?

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:32 pm
by jcgmoi
Braves are just trying to finish out the last two months.

Riley for Gray and anybody not named Winn is a dream.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:36 pm
by rockondlouie
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:11 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:07 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.
Edmonds had one “down” year, which was mostly due to injuries. Riley had a 114 OPS+ last year and is at 108 this year. He has 33 HRs over his last 890 PAs.

SLG%
2021: .531
2022: .528
2023: .516
2024: .461 *put it as a one off “slump” in a season where he started slow*
2025: .428 *now it’s become concerning*

That’s not a good trend in the prime of a player’s career. And when there is $150+ million still remaining on the deal, that hurts the trade value.
I'd still make that deal 100/100 times

Riley is a much more surer bet than Gorman at 3rd base (assuming they can move on from NADO).
Well he better be, it’s a $22 million per year for 7 years bet that you’re making. And after what we’ve seen with Arenado’s power being sapped I’d be cautious.
Where else are they going to find a power hitting 3rd baseman?

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:44 pm
by Futuregm2
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:36 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:11 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:07 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.
Edmonds had one “down” year, which was mostly due to injuries. Riley had a 114 OPS+ last year and is at 108 this year. He has 33 HRs over his last 890 PAs.

SLG%
2021: .531
2022: .528
2023: .516
2024: .461 *put it as a one off “slump” in a season where he started slow*
2025: .428 *now it’s become concerning*

That’s not a good trend in the prime of a player’s career. And when there is $150+ million still remaining on the deal, that hurts the trade value.
I'd still make that deal 100/100 times

Riley is a much more surer bet than Gorman at 3rd base (assuming they can move on from NADO).
Well he better be, it’s a $22 million per year for 7 years bet that you’re making. And after what we’ve seen with Arenado’s power being sapped I’d be cautious.
Where else are they going to find a power hitting 3rd baseman?
Well it just depends on if you can get Riley back to pre 2024 levels. Over the last 2 years Riley has 5 more HRs than Gorman in 260 more PAs than Gorman. If he doesn’t get back to pre 2024, he isn’t really a “power hitting” 3B. But if he did, then you’ve got a good deal. I have mentioned him for a few weeks as a guy I’d be checking in on. If he could rebound, he’s a perfect fit with his age and the fact that he is under control for 7 more years. But his trend does still concern me.

Re: lol Braves

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:49 pm
by rockondlouie
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:36 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:11 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:07 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:44 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:39 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:55 pm After acquiring Erick Fedde from us, they are now trading for Carlos Carrasco.
Wow

What has happened to that team?

Offer them Gray (he'd go, close to home) + Gorman for A. Riley! :D
Guess it depends on if you think Riley can really rebound.

This year

Riley: .267/.318/.428 with 19 2B 14 HR 48 RBI in 421 PA and has 27 BB-119 Ks

Gorman: .219/.310/.408 with 8 2B 9 HR 29 RBI in 226 PA and 27 BB-68 K

I do like Riley’s underlying numbers and would think he’d be an interesting “buy low” type of player. Just not sure Gray/Gorman is buy low for a guy that has been slightly above average for 2 years in a row now and is owed $22 million per year for 7 years AFTER this season,
I do think he'd rebound.

This looks more like a total team (minus Acuna) down year.

Exactly on the "buy low":

J. Edmonds the year before acquired:
.250 .339 .426 .766 (injured too)

Gray's 2026 salary ($35M) more than covers that $22M.

Then pickup $20+M and send NADO to the Dodgers for a lotto prospect.
Edmonds had one “down” year, which was mostly due to injuries. Riley had a 114 OPS+ last year and is at 108 this year. He has 33 HRs over his last 890 PAs.

SLG%
2021: .531
2022: .528
2023: .516
2024: .461 *put it as a one off “slump” in a season where he started slow*
2025: .428 *now it’s become concerning*

That’s not a good trend in the prime of a player’s career. And when there is $150+ million still remaining on the deal, that hurts the trade value.
I'd still make that deal 100/100 times

Riley is a much more surer bet than Gorman at 3rd base (assuming they can move on from NADO).
Well he better be, it’s a $22 million per year for 7 years bet that you’re making. And after what we’ve seen with Arenado’s power being sapped I’d be cautious.
Where else are they going to find a power hitting 3rd baseman?
Well it just depends on if you can get Riley back to pre 2024 levels. Over the last 2 years Riley has 5 more HRs than Gorman in 260 more PAs than Gorman. If he doesn’t get back to pre 2024, he isn’t really a “power hitting” 3B. But if he did, then you’ve got a good deal.
Not sure what happened, he was a monster from 2021 - 2023:

108 HR
297 RBI's
.286 .354 .525 .878
135 OPS+