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Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:46 pm
by Turn2
I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:49 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
Turn2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:46 pm I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….
So you wouldn’t do it? JK. Depends on the level of players in return. No lotto tickets.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:51 pm
by HorseTrader
JJ's emergence? When did that happen? I thought he was still at AAA. Now he is doing great at AAA in a short sample size. We've see other do great for a SHORT TIME and then fail. Why don't we hold off making him the new superstar

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:56 pm
by Melville
Turn2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:46 pm I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….
Moot has been rendered moot, not Donovan - who should be moved to LF.
As for Herrera, his value is determined by whether he can or cannot be converted to outfield (as I recommended 3 years ago), which would make Walker expendable.
Wetherholt, Winn, Gorman, and Saggese should handle 2b/ss/3b next season.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:59 pm
by rockondlouie
I think he could make Winn expendable too given he's played a ton of SS this season.

C. Bloom has no skin in the game when it comes to Winn, Walker and Gorman, they're Mo's draft/development players.

It will be interesting to see where he goes w/them.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 12:59 pm
by ecleme22
No, the bad July record has made BD expendable.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:15 pm
by renostl
Turn2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:46 pm I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….
Why not make a Gorman, Herrera if he can't catch, or Nootbaar expendable?
Perhaps Burleson.
Donovan plays both sides of the ball.
JJ could be a OFer if all of the above can.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:18 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
HorseTrader wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:51 pm JJ's emergence? When did that happen? I thought he was still at AAA. Now he is doing great at AAA in a short sample size. We've see other do great for a SHORT TIME and then fail. Why don't we hold off making him the new superstar
yeah, need to pump the brakes on that a bit

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
by dugoutrex
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:59 pm I think he could make Winn expendable too given he's played a ton of SS this season.

C. Bloom has no skin in the game when it comes to Winn, Walker and Gorman, they're Mo's draft/development players.

It will be interesting to see where he goes w/them.
well, he didn't draft JJ either

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
by rockondlouie
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:59 pm I think he could make Winn expendable too given he's played a ton of SS this season.

C. Bloom has no skin in the game when it comes to Winn, Walker and Gorman, they're Mo's draft/development players.

It will be interesting to see where he goes w/them.
well, he didn't draft JJ either
Are you sure, he was here last season when JJW was drafted and by all counts he's been "advising" since January, 2024. :wink:

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:35 pm
by dugoutrex
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:59 pm I think he could make Winn expendable too given he's played a ton of SS this season.

C. Bloom has no skin in the game when it comes to Winn, Walker and Gorman, they're Mo's draft/development players.

It will be interesting to see where he goes w/them.
well, he didn't draft JJ either
Are you sure, he was here last season when JJW was drafted and by all counts he's been "advising" since January, 2024. :wink:
yes, I'm sure

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:57 pm
by rockondlouie
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:35 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:33 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:59 pm I think he could make Winn expendable too given he's played a ton of SS this season.

C. Bloom has no skin in the game when it comes to Winn, Walker and Gorman, they're Mo's draft/development players.

It will be interesting to see where he goes w/them.
well, he didn't draft JJ either
Are you sure, he was here last season when JJW was drafted and by all counts he's been "advising" since January, 2024. :wink:
yes, I'm sure
No you're not

Bloom has been involved in the last two drafts, you can see the difference.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 14:38 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Looks good but at 22 probably a year away and he isn't nearly as good vs lhp as vs rhp. Bringing him up now could be a repeat of Caglianone. Or he could be Nick Kurtz who can't hit lhp but hits rhp.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 14:54 pm
by bfib
Yes, obviously

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 14:55 pm
by bfib
renostl wrote: 27 Jul 2025 13:15 pm
Turn2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:46 pm I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….
Why not make a Gorman, Herrera if he can't catch, or Nootbaar expendable?
Perhaps Burleson.
Donovan plays both sides of the ball.
JJ could be a OFer if all of the above can.
Because none of those guys get you jack [shirt] if you trade them.

Re: Has JJ’s emergence made Donovan expendable?

Posted: 27 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
by Jatalk
Turn2 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 12:46 pm I think he has…if we can get a RH hitting outfielder or a starting pitcher for him, I would pull the plug! Same for Herrera….
Replace the name Winn for Donovan