Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 09:19 am
Just curious who everyone thinks has the higher ceiling.
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Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 13:43 pm
Saggese in my opinion….
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 14:11 pm
Neither will ever be a starter
Both are J.A.G.'s
Both are J.A.G.'s
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 15:44 pm
Burly
nice stroke off the lefty
edit: oops wrong thread
nice stroke off the lefty
edit: oops wrong thread
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 27 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
Rocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:35 am
I don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:41 am
Saggese because he is 23. Prieto is 26 already and hasnt made majors and hitting worse in memphis this season
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:41 am
Saggese. Plus he’s 3 years younger.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:46 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
He has to play. Sitting him on the bench is ANOTHER example that they have NO CLUE how to handle young players. Masyn Winn is about the only one who was handled correctly.
Saggese is a baseball rat, a la Matt Carp. He is a natural hitter and a good ball player. He has the work ethic. He has the ability. He needs to be allowed to continue to develop. Will Cards do that? That's questionable!
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:50 am
Saggesse but Prieto needs to be traded or released. As a lh hitting second baseman he couldn’t pick a worse team to be with to get a shot at majors.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:52 am
Play where?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:46 amrockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
He has to play. Sitting him on the bench is ANOTHER example that they have NO CLUE how to handle young players. Masyn Winn is about the only one who was handled correctly.
Saggese is a baseball rat, a la Matt Carp. He is a natural hitter and a good ball player. He has the work ethic. He has the ability. He needs to be allowed to continue to develop. Will Cards do that? That's questionable!
Winn - SS
JJW - 2B
Donny - SUP
Aside from showing nothing offensively he has no position here for the next ten+ years.
Sorry C4L but to me he's J.A.G.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 09:01 am
Well if they aren't playing him regulatory in STL, hame should be playing in Memphis.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:52 amPlay where?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:46 amrockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
He has to play. Sitting him on the bench is ANOTHER example that they have NO CLUE how to handle young players. Masyn Winn is about the only one who was handled correctly.
Saggese is a baseball rat, a la Matt Carp. He is a natural hitter and a good ball player. He has the work ethic. He has the ability. He needs to be allowed to continue to develop. Will Cards do that? That's questionable!
Winn - SS
JJW - 2B
Donny - SUP
Aside from showing nothing offensively he has no position here for the next ten+ years.
Sorry C4L but to me he's J.A.G.
Agree, we will have a lot of positional jam with Winn, Saggese, Gorman, Donovan, JJ, etc. Cards have to figure that out.
Problem is, out of that bunch Gorman is really the only one who profiles the needed 3B power, but we've seen how good he is.
I think JJ, Saggese, and Donovan are all better suited for 2B. So who knows?
I might be wrong on Saggese, but if I am, I think it will be almost 100% the fault of how he is handled by this lousy organization.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 09:04 am
I wonder if he'd be an ancillary piece in any trades Mo makes or Bloom this offseason?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:01 amWell if they aren't playing him regulatory in STL, hame should be playing in Memphis.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:52 amPlay where?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:46 amrockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
He has to play. Sitting him on the bench is ANOTHER example that they have NO CLUE how to handle young players. Masyn Winn is about the only one who was handled correctly.
Saggese is a baseball rat, a la Matt Carp. He is a natural hitter and a good ball player. He has the work ethic. He has the ability. He needs to be allowed to continue to develop. Will Cards do that? That's questionable!
Winn - SS
JJW - 2B
Donny - SUP
Aside from showing nothing offensively he has no position here for the next ten+ years.
Sorry C4L but to me he's J.A.G.
Agree, we will have a lot of positional jam with Winn, Saggese, Gorman, Donovan, JJ, etc. Cards have to figure that out.
Problem is, out of that bunch Gorman is really the only one who profiles the needed 3B power, but we've seen how good he is.
I think JJ, Saggese, and Donovan are all better suited for 2B. So who knows?
I might be wrong on Saggese, but if I am, I think it will be almost 100% the fault of how he is handled by this lousy organization.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 09:42 am
This is like when going out to a fine steakhouse and discussing which is better off the kids menu
PBJ or Dino nuggets
PBJ or Dino nuggets
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 09:48 am
His defense stinks, especially at third base. This is not due to playing time, but is actually a factor that will limit his playing time.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:46 amrockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
He has to play. Sitting him on the bench is ANOTHER example that they have NO CLUE how to handle young players. Masyn Winn is about the only one who was handled correctly.
Saggese is a baseball rat, a la Matt Carp. He is a natural hitter and a good ball player. He has the work ethic. He has the ability. He needs to be allowed to continue to develop. Will Cards do that? That's questionable!
Donny and Nado are gold gloves. JJW is a much higher ceiling. Trade Saggesse if you can get something we actually need.
Re: Saggese or Prieto
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 09:48 am
Perhaps if they don't see him as a part of the future.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:04 amI wonder if he'd be an ancillary piece in any trades Mo makes or Bloom this offseason?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:01 amWell if they aren't playing him regulatory in STL, hame should be playing in Memphis.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:52 amPlay where?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:46 amrockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:35 amI don't think so C4L (but hope you're right).Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:11 pmRocko,
Still think you're wrong on Saggese. He just needs some time. He is a natural hitter. Sporadic playing time on the bench in STL isn't going to cut it. (Although, the Cards screwed him tol when he was raking in his first callup this season, only to immediately be shipped back. This organization blows!!!!)
Prieto hits as well, but don't think he has as much power upside. ... Although sometimes I think I'd take a team of guys who can just hit, regardless of power potential!!
Small sample size of 143 ML PA's but .228 .259 .331 .590 gives me little hope he'll be anything more than a last guy on the bench player at best (re: J.A.G.).
Prieto same, J.A.G.
He has to play. Sitting him on the bench is ANOTHER example that they have NO CLUE how to handle young players. Masyn Winn is about the only one who was handled correctly.
Saggese is a baseball rat, a la Matt Carp. He is a natural hitter and a good ball player. He has the work ethic. He has the ability. He needs to be allowed to continue to develop. Will Cards do that? That's questionable!
Winn - SS
JJW - 2B
Donny - SUP
Aside from showing nothing offensively he has no position here for the next ten+ years.
Sorry C4L but to me he's J.A.G.
Agree, we will have a lot of positional jam with Winn, Saggese, Gorman, Donovan, JJ, etc. Cards have to figure that out.
Problem is, out of that bunch Gorman is really the only one who profiles the needed 3B power, but we've seen how good he is.
I think JJ, Saggese, and Donovan are all better suited for 2B. So who knows?
I might be wrong on Saggese, but if I am, I think it will be almost 100% the fault of how he is handled by this lousy organization.
Although I still think every team needs a utility guy that can get regular starts all over the place.