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The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
by Shady
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:23 am
by Shady
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Ideally, the Cardinals do some selling and still stay competitive for a wildcard this season. It could be done with some savvy maneuvering.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:25 am
by craviduce
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:23 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Ideally, the Cardinals do some selling and still stay competitive for a wildcard this season. It could be done with some savvy maneuvering.
please, explain this "savvy maneuvering"
I'm intrigued
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:29 am
by Shady
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:25 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:23 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Ideally, the Cardinals do some selling and still stay competitive for a wildcard this season. It could be done with some savvy maneuvering.
please, explain this "savvy maneuvering"
I'm intrigued
Trading some potential free agents for something that will not only plug some holes this season but help for the future. As well as maneuvering some NTCs. Which could be tough.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:30 am
by craviduce
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:29 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:25 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:23 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Ideally, the Cardinals do some selling and still stay competitive for a wildcard this season. It could be done with some savvy maneuvering.
please, explain this "savvy maneuvering"
I'm intrigued
Trading potential free agents for something that will not only plug in some holes this season but help for the future. As well as maneuvering some NTCs. Which could be tough.
in theory...yeah, sure. But in reality... what teams would give you better players than the ones we'd be trading? Which team is going to take Mikolas, Pallante, and Gray and give us back better?
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:31 am
by JuanAgosto
Trading expiring contracts to fill holes. Obtain a RH bat or pitching.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:32 am
by craviduce
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:30 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:29 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:25 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:23 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Ideally, the Cardinals do some selling and still stay competitive for a wildcard this season. It could be done with some savvy maneuvering.
please, explain this "savvy maneuvering"
I'm intrigued
Trading potential free agents for something that will not only plug in some holes this season but help for the future. As well as maneuvering some NTCs. Which could be tough.
in theory...yeah, sure. But in reality... what teams would give you better players than the ones we'd be trading? Which team is going to take Mikolas, Pallante, and Gray and give us back better?
Further, who is taking on Pozo, Burleson, Walker and VS2 and giving us back better?
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:32 am
by Shady
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:30 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:29 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:25 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:23 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 09:55 am
With dubious starting pitching, inconsistent offense and some potential FAs.
Ideally, the Cardinals do some selling and still stay competitive for a wildcard this season. It could be done with some savvy maneuvering.
please, explain this "savvy maneuvering"
I'm intrigued
Trading potential free agents for something that will not only plug in some holes this season but help for the future. As well as maneuvering some NTCs. Which could be tough.
theory...yeah, sure. What players, what teams would give you better players than the ones we'd be trading? Which team is going to take Mikolas, Pallante, and Gray and give us back better?
Lets hope Mo and Bloom are busy trying to figure some of that out. I'd be really looking over all the possibilities with the Dodgers.Especially, regarding Helsley and Nootbaar.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:33 am
by craviduce
You're not trading to compete today, you're trading to possibly compete in a year, or probably two.
Trading to compete today would cost you precious farm pieces that we can't afford to lose right now.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:35 am
by Shady
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:33 am
You're not trading to compete today, you're trading to possibly compete in a year, or probably two.
Trading to compete today would cost you precious farm pieces that we can't afford to lose right now.
Agree. But savvy maneuvering could still keep the team in contention for a wildcard this season. That's for Mo and Bloom to figure out.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:36 am
by craviduce
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:35 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:33 am
You're not trading to compete today, you're trading to possibly compete in a year, or probably two.
Trading to compete today would cost you precious farm pieces that we can't afford to lose right now.
Agree. But savvy maneuvering could still keep the team in contention for a wildcard this season.
playing better can get the team in contention of a WC . Winn and Contreras need help. They're not getting it.
in order to get better you have to trade the bad with Farm Prospects.
That's a dumb move for a team trying to rebuild. Leaving Bloom a cluster frick isn't in the Cards
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:38 am
by NYCardsFan
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:36 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:35 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:33 am
You're not trading to compete today, you're trading to possibly compete in a year, or probably two.
Trading to compete today would cost you precious farm pieces that we can't afford to lose right now.
Agree. But savvy maneuvering could still keep the team in contention for a wildcard this season.
playing better can get the team in contention of a WC . Winn and Contreras need help. They're not getting it.
in order to get better you have to trade the bad with Farm Prospects.
That's a dumb move for a team trying to rebuild. Leaving Bloom a cluster frick isn't in the Cards
Shady’s recurring “theory” (articulated in countless repetitive threads) is the Dodgers—who have one of the best FOs in baseball—are somehow champing at the bit to trade a dollar for 50 cents.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:41 am
by Shady
There are crafty deals to be made that not only helps for the future. But for the present. Three team deals are a possibility.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:42 am
by craviduce
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:38 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:36 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:35 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:33 am
You're not trading to compete today, you're trading to possibly compete in a year, or probably two.
Trading to compete today would cost you precious farm pieces that we can't afford to lose right now.
Agree. But savvy maneuvering could still keep the team in contention for a wildcard this season.
playing better can get the team in contention of a WC . Winn and Contreras need help. They're not getting it.
in order to get better you have to trade the bad with Farm Prospects.
That's a dumb move for a team trying to rebuild. Leaving Bloom a cluster frick isn't in the Cards
Shady’s recurring “theory” (articulated in countless repetitive threads) is the Dodgers—who have one of the best FOs in baseball—are somehow champing at the bit to trade a dollar for 50 cents.
at least he's not clamoring for
Biles, Biels, Beils, Blies, Bleis from the Red Sox...I don't think I could take another one of those trading Nado for 2 of the Red Sox top 10. Or the pitchers that didn't exist with the Yankees.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:43 am
by Shady
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:38 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:36 am
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:35 am
craviduce wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:33 am
You're not trading to compete today, you're trading to possibly compete in a year, or probably two.
Trading to compete today would cost you precious farm pieces that we can't afford to lose right now.
Agree. But savvy maneuvering could still keep the team in contention for a wildcard this season.
playing better can get the team in contention of a WC . Winn and Contreras need help. They're not getting it.
in order to get better you have to trade the bad with Farm Prospects.
That's a dumb move for a team trying to rebuild. Leaving Bloom a cluster frick isn't in the Cards
Shady’s recurring “theory” (articulated in countless repetitive threads) is the Dodgers—who have one of the best FOs in baseball—are somehow champing at the bit to trade a dollar for 50 cents.
You don't seem to understand that the Dodgers are willing to pay a lot to win a World Series. Not just sneak in as a wildcard.
Re: The biggest gamble would be staying pat
Posted: 26 Jul 2025 11:43 am
by craviduce
Shady wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 11:41 am
There are crafty deals to be made that not only helps for the future. But for the present. Three team deals are a possibility.
So...again....explain. What are these crafty deals that will improve this team to a WC , and we don't trade one single Top 30 prospect?