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Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 07:32 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Good morning.
Much being made by the teams lack of motivated play. Listless. Non focused. Lack of desire. Going through the motions.
An idea. The deadline is a week off. The team is mediocre at best. Players will want to or will leave soon.
Maybe the pressure of being traded, the want to be traded, the deadline, saps a struggling team like the Cards. Maybe. Another mental distractor.
My point is, at other points in the season we have payed well. No impending lines drawn in n the sand.
But the closer we got to the deadline the worse we played. The more the rumors persist.
I’m thinking lack of focus, then desire, wanting a change, losing, have all made for a bad stretch of baseball.
You think the deadline has any affect.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
by Absolut
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 07:37 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
Team chemistry is fragile. Fine line between winning and losing. I’m looking for that edge. Like a player, Nado, day to day, hour to hour, reading his name being bounced around.
Now add that to a team that even the fan base is screaming sell all. I see a distraction. I wondered if the deadline provided the avenue for distraction.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 07:47 am
by Absolut
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:37 am
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
Team chemistry is fragile. Fine line between winning and losing. I’m looking for that edge. Like a player, Nado, day to day, hour to hour, reading his name being bounced around.
Now add that to a team that even the fan base is screaming sell all. I see a distraction. I wondered if the deadline provided the avenue for distraction.
Nado has sucked for a long time. He has a ntc. It’s not the reason he sucks.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 07:51 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:47 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:37 am
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
Team chemistry is fragile. Fine line between winning and losing. I’m looking for that edge. Like a player, Nado, day to day, hour to hour, reading his name being bounced around.
Now add that to a team that even the fan base is screaming sell all. I see a distraction. I wondered if the deadline provided the avenue for distraction.
Nado has sucked for a long time. He has a ntc. It’s not the reason he sucks.
I see 20 teams that are like roadkill, ready to be picked to the bone by the big 10. Now that we are part of the kill, I wondered if that type environment was different, hence the uninspired play.
I hear ya, thank you for your time and your inputs.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:25 am
by RamFan08NY
I think it does have an impact. Has nothing to do with being soft. Just human nature. The team is spiraling and some of these guys know that in a week they may be in a better situation better environment, better team. I think it does add a negative impact on the focus, and the dugout.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:30 am
by sikeston bulldog2
RamFan08NY wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:25 am
I think it does have an impact. Has nothing to do with being soft. Just human nature. The team is spiraling and some of these guys know that in a week they may be in a better situation better environment, better team. I think it does add a negative impact on the focus, and the dugout.
I agree. At this level, to be on top of your game, it’s more than- I’m ready to play coach. You need to be good. The talent level in pro baseball is a razors edge from chump to thump.
Any mental distractions could put you on the wrong side of that blade. But when your name is mentioned by the fan base and national media, you’d think the mind would clutter, albeit minor, but just enough to take the edge of performance off.
Hence poorer play.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:33 am
by Ozziesfan41
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:32 am
Good morning.
Much being made by the teams lack of motivated play. Listless. Non focused. Lack of desire. Going through the motions.
An idea. The deadline is a week off. The team is mediocre at best. Players will want to or will leave soon.
Maybe the pressure of being traded, the want to be traded, the deadline, saps a struggling team like the Cards. Maybe. Another mental distractor.
My point is, at other points in the season we have payed well. No impending lines drawn in n the sand.
But the closer we got to the deadline the worse we played. The more the rumors persist.
I’m thinking lack of focus, then desire, wanting a change, losing, have all made for a bad stretch of baseball.
You think the deadline has any affect.
I think for some it would. Many players have said that it’s stressful hearing your name in trade rumors all the time not knowing when and where you will be traded and I imagine some at least it could hurt their performance. I don’t think that’s what happened to the cardinals though I think they were riding high on winning then the pitching imploded and finding yourself down multiple runs early in the game is probably deflating
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:35 am
by scoutyjones2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:37 am
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
Team chemistry is fragile. Fine line between winning and losing. I’m looking for that edge. Like a player, Nado, day to day, hour to hour, reading his name being bounced around.
Now add that to a team that even the fan base is screaming sell all. I see a distraction. I wondered if the deadline provided the avenue for distraction.
No.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:37 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:35 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:37 am
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
Team chemistry is fragile. Fine line between winning and losing. I’m looking for that edge. Like a player, Nado, day to day, hour to hour, reading his name being bounced around.
Now add that to a team that even the fan base is screaming sell all. I see a distraction. I wondered if the deadline provided the avenue for distraction.
No.
Good morning. I knew you’d say no.
You know with ten names being dragged thru the rumor mill, plus the DFA of Fedde, those butt holes are tight.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:40 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:33 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:32 am
Good morning.
Much being made by the teams lack of motivated play. Listless. Non focused. Lack of desire. Going through the motions.
An idea. The deadline is a week off. The team is mediocre at best. Players will want to or will leave soon.
Maybe the pressure of being traded, the want to be traded, the deadline, saps a struggling team like the Cards. Maybe. Another mental distractor.
My point is, at other points in the season we have payed well. No impending lines drawn in n the sand.
But the closer we got to the deadline the worse we played. The more the rumors persist.
I’m thinking lack of focus, then desire, wanting a change, losing, have all made for a bad stretch of baseball.
You think the deadline has any affect.
I think for some it would. Many players have said that it’s stressful hearing your name in trade rumors all the time not knowing when and where you will be traded and I imagine some at least it could hurt their performance. I don’t think that’s what happened to the cardinals though I think they were riding high on winning then the pitching imploded and finding yourself down multiple runs early in the game is probably deflating
Good response. Seems nightly the base is yelling sell. And about ten names could really move. That’s 40 percent of the 26 man. I’d think there is thought in that direction. These guys aren’t robots.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:53 am
by redbirdfan51
The team is in a funk. The Cards starting pitching, outside of McGreevey, has been horrendous. The starting pitchers have allowed a lot of runs early. I think the hitters feel the pressure and trying too hard. I do think the trade deadline is a distraction for many of our players also.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 08:59 am
by JuanAgosto
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
There are some very weak minded people in MLB.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 09:08 am
by ramfandan
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:33 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:32 am
Good morning.
Much being made by the teams lack of motivated play. Listless. Non focused. Lack of desire. Going through the motions.
An idea. The deadline is a week off. The team is mediocre at best. Players will want to or will leave soon.
Maybe the pressure of being traded, the want to be traded, the deadline, saps a struggling team like the Cards. Maybe. Another mental distractor.
My point is, at other points in the season we have payed well. No impending lines drawn in n the sand.
But the closer we got to the deadline the worse we played. The more the rumors persist.
I’m thinking lack of focus, then desire, wanting a change, losing, have all made for a bad stretch of baseball.
You think the deadline has any affect.
I think for some it would. Many players have said that it’s stressful hearing your name in trade rumors all the time not knowing when and where you will be traded and I imagine some at least it could hurt their performance. I don’t think that’s what happened to the cardinals though I think they were riding high on winning then the pitching imploded and finding yourself down multiple runs early in the game is probably deflating
I think you inadvertently stated part of the problem when you stated ‘…and finding yourself down multiple runs early in the game.’
How many games in the last couple weeks were the Cardinals scoreless in the first three innings. Seemed like quie a few..
So as the pitchers allowe 2,3 4 runs, the score was often 2-0, 3-0, 4-0 or more. The lack of scoring early magnified the pitching implosion.
It’s one thing to allow 4 runs in three innings when you have scored 2 or 3 yourself. You trail by a run or two but go scoreless and trail by 4 runs can look insurmountable.
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 09:11 am
by scoutyjones2
ramfandan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 09:08 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:33 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:32 am
Good morning.
Much being made by the teams lack of motivated play. Listless. Non focused. Lack of desire. Going through the motions.
An idea. The deadline is a week off. The team is mediocre at best. Players will want to or will leave soon.
Maybe the pressure of being traded, the want to be traded, the deadline, saps a struggling team like the Cards. Maybe. Another mental distractor.
My point is, at other points in the season we have payed well. No impending lines drawn in n the sand.
But the closer we got to the deadline the worse we played. The more the rumors persist.
I’m thinking lack of focus, then desire, wanting a change, losing, have all made for a bad stretch of baseball.
You think the deadline has any affect.
I think for some it would. Many players have said that it’s stressful hearing your name in trade rumors all the time not knowing when and where you will be traded and I imagine some at least it could hurt their performance. I don’t think that’s what happened to the cardinals though I think they were riding high on winning then the pitching imploded and finding yourself down multiple runs early in the game is probably deflating
I think you inadvertently stated part of the problem when you stated ‘…and finding yourself down multiple runs early in the game.’
How many games in the last couple weeks were the Cardinals scoreless in the first three innings. Seemed like quie a few..
So as the pitchers allowe 2,3 4 runs, the score was often 2-0, 3-0, 4-0 or more. The lack of scoring early magnified the pitching implosion.
So an actual pitching implosion magnified the implosion?
Re: Does the deadline cause players to lose focus and desire.
Posted: 24 Jul 2025 10:10 am
by TopofthePerch
Absolut wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 07:35 am
Anyone weak minded to that extreme wouldn’t be in mlb
This is the idiotic answer I was waiting for. Players aren't robots. Also they have no idea where they might go. A lot of people like comfort and also as a human being it's not comfortable not knowing where you might be going and having to leave friends and family. You hear it brought up literally all the time how distracting trade rumors are for players.
