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The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
by Bully4you
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
by Carp4Cy
Only if we can replace them with what they theoretically should produce if healthy and not slumping. Where is that going to come from?
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
by JuanAgosto
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Im all for making deals. And agree with Nootbaar always seeming to be hurt. But Herrera hasn't had a history of injuries. Just two this year. Maybe just bad luck. And Walker was hit on the wrist and had appendicitis. Kind of out of his control. Gorman has occasional back issues. Seems similar to what Holliday used to experience occasionally.
With that said, I'm open to trading any of them for a good return.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:31 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Ridiculous. None of these guys are what you called them.
Professional baseball is hard.
Herrera is our best bat, and dirt cheap. You do not trade him.
Walker, Nootbaar, fine, but not for health reasons. They just can't hit, or, in the instance of Walker, play decent defense.
Gorman-maybe, for the right return. But it's easy to lose sight of the fact he has an OPS of .720, a positive OPS+ and has a power bat (HR every 21 AB's).
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:34 pm
by Bully4you
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
Only if we can replace them with what they theoretically should produce if healthy and not slumping. Where is that going to come from?
What they should produce?
I think we've seen what they produce when healthy and it's nill.
This notion we should just hold on and give them one more year is Mike Tyson "Ludacris"
At some point shouldn't they open the roster for the new guy that's come in so as he can add his two cents?
Whether at this trade deadline or this off season, I'd rid myself of those 4.
And that is just a start as far as I am concerned.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:38 pm
by Bully4you
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:31 pm
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Ridiculous. None of these guys are what you called them.
Professional baseball is hard.
Herrera is our best bat, and dirt cheap. You do not trade him.
Walker, Nootbaar, fine, but not for health reasons. They just can't hit, or, in the instance of Walker, play decent defense.
Gorman-maybe, for the right return. But it's easy to lose sight of the fact he has an OPS of .720, a positive OPS+ and has a power bat (HR every 21 AB's).
Noot seems to be always out.
Walker injury prone too.
Herrera --I don't remember if he was hurt last year, but he only had 259 PA, so I guess he was.
If Herrera wasn't hurt last year and he's such a great hitter, then he'd have had more.
Herrera is hurt a lot this year.
If they place Herrera in the OF he'll pull a hammy every other game.
Gorman is Gorman.
Let's just say, he ain't the unicorn.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
by Bully4you
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Im all for making deals. And agree with Nootbaar always seeming to be hurt. But Herrera hasn't had a history of injuries. Just two this year. Maybe just bad luck. And Walker was hit on the wrist and had appendicitis. Kind of out of his control. Gorman has occasional back issues. Seems similar to what Holliday used to experience occasionally.
With that said, I'm open to trading any of them for a good return.
Herrera must have been injured last year.
He only had 259 PA
I agree with you and I hope we get major roster turnover sometime this year.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:49 pm
by Shady
Nootbaar, Walker and Gorman should all be on the trading block at the trade deadline. At least one, maybe packaged with Helsley for a quality return.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:50 pm
by Bully4you
Shady wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:49 pm
Nootbaar, Walker and Gurman should be on the trading block for the trade deadline.
Well said.
Herrera would get you the most.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 13:57 pm
by Shady
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:50 pm
Shady wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:49 pm
Nootbaar, Walker and Gurman should be on the trading block for the trade deadline.
Well said.
Herrera would get you the most.
Wonder what offering Helsley and another team's choice of Nootbaar, Walker or Gorman could bring? My guess, a quality return. Plus, possibly, opening up some positional playing time. This is the kind of deal Mo needs to pursue.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 14:02 pm
by JuanAgosto
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Im all for making deals. And agree with Nootbaar always seeming to be hurt. But Herrera hasn't had a history of injuries. Just two this year. Maybe just bad luck. And Walker was hit on the wrist and had appendicitis. Kind of out of his control. Gorman has occasional back issues. Seems similar to what Holliday used to experience occasionally.
With that said, I'm open to trading any of them for a good return.
Herrera must have been injured last year.
He only had 259 PA
I agree with you and I hope we get major roster turnover sometime this year.
258 pa total or in StL?
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 14:04 pm
by ClassicO
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:40 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:26 pm
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
Im all for making deals. And agree with Nootbaar always seeming to be hurt. But Herrera hasn't had a history of injuries. Just two this year. Maybe just bad luck. And Walker was hit on the wrist and had appendicitis. Kind of out of his control. Gorman has occasional back issues. Seems similar to what Holliday used to experience occasionally.
With that said, I'm open to trading any of them for a good return.
Herrera must have been injured last year.
He only had 259 PA
I agree with you and I hope we get major roster turnover sometime this year.
He was at Memphis for 2 months+ in 2024 (June 19 through August 25). He missed 23 days in mid-July with back tightness at AAA.
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 14:16 pm
by scoutyjones2
Bully4you wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 13:13 pm
I'm talking about the [kittycats] on the team.
1. Gorman
2. Walker
3. Nootbaar
4. Herrera
Always injured or hurt, whatever.
No good anyway, other than Herrera as a hitter.
Just cut the cord on these 4.
If we're doing a fire sale, let's do it right.
Others need to go too, but these four I' m okay losing.
You fail to understand, baseball, and elite baseball is very much a failing endeavor. It's like you've never followed baseball.
Suspects/prospects fail or the time or not meet fans expectations. Dumb [shirt]
I'm sure, you of all people should know about failing to meet people's expectations of you
Re: The ones that can't handle it: There's a pejorative for this.
Posted: 18 Jul 2025 14:21 pm
by Cusecards
LMAO
Another classic OP that needs to be preserved for all eternity in a time capsule!
Always good to get my daily laughs in early.
Who needs the Comedy Channel???