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Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 17:38 pm
by BrummerStealsHome
https://www.si.com/mlb/rangers/news/ran ... an-eovaldi
My first reaction is that doesn't happen in the real world (paid bonuses when conditions not met), then I remembered something like that happened in my company about 15 years ago. So I guess it does happen! Good for Nathan. I wish we had him.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
by cardstatman
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
by Futuregm2
He is 7-3 with a 1.58 ERA this year in 16 starts. It’s pretty amazing that he wasn’t on the team, nor did he replace deGrom on the roster, which would have made sense. Good on the Rangers for doing this.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 21:04 pm
by HOUCARD
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
He is 7-3 with a 1.58 ERA this year in 16 starts. It’s pretty amazing that he wasn’t on the team, nor did he replace deGrom on the roster, which would have made sense. Good on the Rangers for doing this.
Dude flat out dominated the Astros last time out. Of course half the Astro team is on the DL but, I'm not certain it would have mattered.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 21:20 pm
by Rojo Johnson
It’s not always just about money. Hear that Moe and Bill?
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 21:24 pm
by An Old Friend
cardstatman wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Yeah, the precedent is that the Rangers aren’t cheap and won’t look for every corner to squeeze dollars out of their roster.
He was deserving and they took care of him. Players notice that, not just in their clubhouse, but around the league.
And they notice the Cards unnecessarily taking guys to arbitration hearings over small amounts of money… not giving any extensions to young players, and being completely inactive in free agency.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 22:36 pm
by Futuregm2
As an aside, I wonder if any player who doesn’t deserve the AS bid but goes as the “token” for the team would ever give their bonus (if they had it) money back? Probably not.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 23:01 pm
by swatski
MMO gave numerous unnecessary high paying extensions to vets. He’s Santa Claus.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 23:07 pm
by Red7
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 21:24 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Yeah, the precedent is that the Rangers aren’t cheap and won’t look for every corner to squeeze dollars out of their roster.
He was deserving and they took care of him. Players notice that, not just in their clubhouse, but around the league.
And they notice the Cards unnecessarily taking guys to arbitration hearings over small amounts of money… not giving any extensions to young players, and being completely inactive in free agency.
Going to arbitration is now the industry norm and not reserved to the Cardinals. They have given contract extensions to young players like Carlos Martinez, Paul DeJong, Kolten Wong, and a guy like Albert Pujols. They have signed free agents like Johnny Peralta, Dexter Fowler, Brett Cecil, Willson Contreras, and Sonny Gray.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 23:45 pm
by An Old Friend
Red7 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 23:07 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 21:24 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Yeah, the precedent is that the Rangers aren’t cheap and won’t look for every corner to squeeze dollars out of their roster.
He was deserving and they took care of him. Players notice that, not just in their clubhouse, but around the league.
And they notice the Cards unnecessarily taking guys to arbitration hearings over small amounts of money… not giving any extensions to young players, and being completely inactive in free agency.
Going to arbitration is now the industry norm and not reserved to the Cardinals. They have given contract extensions to young players like Carlos Martinez, Paul DeJong, Kolten Wong, and a guy like Albert Pujols. They have signed free agents like Johnny Peralta, Dexter Fowler, Brett Cecil, Willson Contreras, and Sonny Gray.
Lying to yourself is a choice you are free to make. Referencing an extension done 2 decades ago as evidence of how the Cardinals are currently conducting business… well… I don’t know how to help you get over that hump.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 07:21 am
by NorthernBird
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 22:36 pm
As an aside, I wonder if any player who doesn’t deserve the AS bid but goes as the “token” for the team would ever give their bonus (if they had it) money back? Probably not.
I would imagine there are players who’ve donated “special” bonuses like these to charity. Would you pay a bonus back to your employer? It’s not exactly a vis-a-vis comparison…
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 07:22 am
by NorthernBird
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 21:24 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Yeah, the precedent is that the Rangers aren’t cheap and won’t look for every corner to squeeze dollars out of their roster.
He was deserving and they took care of him. Players notice that, not just in their clubhouse, but around the league.
And they notice the Cards unnecessarily taking guys to arbitration hearings over small amounts of money… not giving any extensions to young players, and being completely inactive in free agency.
This.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 07:41 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
He is 7-3 with a 1.58 ERA this year in 16 starts. It’s pretty amazing that he wasn’t on the team, nor did he replace deGrom on the roster, which would have made sense. Good on the Rangers for doing this.
Absolutely the answer. How come we as fans can see the obvious.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 12:09 pm
by Red7
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 23:45 pm
Red7 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 23:07 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 21:24 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Yeah, the precedent is that the Rangers aren’t cheap and won’t look for every corner to squeeze dollars out of their roster.
He was deserving and they took care of him. Players notice that, not just in their clubhouse, but around the league.
And they notice the Cards unnecessarily taking guys to arbitration hearings over small amounts of money… not giving any extensions to young players, and being completely inactive in free agency.
Going to arbitration is now the industry norm and not reserved to the Cardinals. They have given contract extensions to young players like Carlos Martinez, Paul DeJong, Kolten Wong, and a guy like Albert Pujols. They have signed free agents like Johnny Peralta, Dexter Fowler, Brett Cecil, Willson Contreras, and Sonny Gray.
Lying to yourself is a choice you are free to make. Referencing an extension done 2 decades ago as evidence of how the Cardinals are currently conducting business… well… I don’t know how to help you get over that hump.
Ok, let’s eliminate Pujols. The other statements stand.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 12:22 pm
by An Old Friend
Red7 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 12:09 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 23:45 pm
Red7 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 23:07 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 21:24 pm
cardstatman wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 17:43 pm
Now Nathan Eovaldi is happy.
A precedent has been set. It must be followed in the future or the next Ranger snub is going to be unhappy.
Then there is that simple little question of "How close is close enough?" and then are the Rangers discriminating when they decide who is close enough.
Fun times ahead.
Blurry arbitrary lines...
Yeah, the precedent is that the Rangers aren’t cheap and won’t look for every corner to squeeze dollars out of their roster.
He was deserving and they took care of him. Players notice that, not just in their clubhouse, but around the league.
And they notice the Cards unnecessarily taking guys to arbitration hearings over small amounts of money… not giving any extensions to young players, and being completely inactive in free agency.
Going to arbitration is now the industry norm and not reserved to the Cardinals. They have given contract extensions to young players like Carlos Martinez, Paul DeJong, Kolten Wong, and a guy like Albert Pujols. They have signed free agents like Johnny Peralta, Dexter Fowler, Brett Cecil, Willson Contreras, and Sonny Gray.
Lying to yourself is a choice you are free to make. Referencing an extension done 2 decades ago as evidence of how the Cardinals are currently conducting business… well… I don’t know how to help you get over that hump.
Ok, let’s eliminate Pujols. The other statements stand.
Martinez - 2017
DeJong - 2018
Wong - 2016
They haven't given any extensions recently to young players. There isn't a single player on the roster that came from their system that has a long-term commitment.
Their lone free agent addition this past offseason was what, a $2MM one-year deal to Maton after they got called out by the union?
They are committed to exactly TWO players after 2026.
Re: Rangers pay Eovaldi AS bonus, though he didn't make team
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 12:44 pm
by Quincy Varnish
An Old Friend wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 12:22 pmMartinez - 2017
DeJong - 2018
Wong - 2016
They haven't given any extensions recently to young players. There isn't a single player on the roster that came from their system that has a long-term commitment.
Their lone free agent addition this past offseason was what, a $2MM one-year deal to Maton after they got called out by the union?
They are committed to exactly TWO players after 2026.
In fairness, most of their young players have sucked.