Most talk on Doyle naturally but did Cards also get the steal of the draft ?

[ramfandan]

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MLB sure liked him. Though a reliever some think the 6-5, 225 lb pitcher will get first look as potential starter. Grade 70 fastball is nice to start

[bfib]

I love that they took some power pitchers. Hopefully it pans out

[HorseTrader]

I think his floor and ceiling are as high as Doyles. If he's stayed at Tenn, he would been a starter the coming season

[billybaseball]

Tennessee's coach was on 101espn yesterday. He said they had to completely remake him when he came to campus. Completely reworked everything starting with his fastball and his secondary pitches didn't get much focus. That's how he went from 20%bb to 5%bb. Said it was the right thing longterm for him but it probably hurt his draft value because of how underdeveloped his secondaries were. He would have been their 1 or 2 starter next year. If the Cardinals can get his secondary pitches worked out then he has ace ceiling. His fastball looks like it teleports when it's on.

[Bully4you]

Someone mentioned the Cards took him way
too early.
I cannot remember who it was.
Opinions all over the place.
I'd say they had one hell of a draft.

[Melville]

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MLB sure liked him. Though a reliever some think the 6-5, 225 lb pitcher will get first look as potential starter. Grade 70 fastball is nice to start

He is a high risk / high reward pick was who selected above rank.
Great fastball with command issues on his secondary pitches.
Equal chance of being steal and bust.
The pick which most interests me is Mitchell, SS drafted as an outfielder.
The outfield has been a disaster for the Cardinals for the past decade, and his 60 grade hit tool is something the organization really needed to add to its system.

[Red7]

https://redbirdrants.com/mlb-network-la ... -the-draft

MLB sure liked him. Though a reliever some think the 6-5, 225 lb pitcher will get first look as potential starter. Grade 70 fastball is nice to start

He is a high risk / high reward pick was who selected above rank.
Great fastball with command issues on his secondary pitches.
Equal chance of being steal and bust.
The pick which most interests me is Mitchell, SS drafted as an outfielder.
The outfield has been a disaster for the Cardinals for the past decade, and his 60 grade hit tool is something the organization really needed to add to its system.

Mitchell is an Alec Burlinson, Erich Church, Brendan Donovan, Chase Davis, Matt Koperniak, hitter: Left-handed with limited power potential. Along with their 3rd round pick, they are well-stocked in that department.

[moose-and-squirrel]

Tennessee's coach was on 101espn yesterday. He said they had to completely remake him when he came to campus. Completely reworked everything starting with his fastball and his secondary pitches didn't get much focus. That's how he went from 20%bb to 5%bb. Said it was the right thing longterm for him but it probably hurt his draft value because of how underdeveloped his secondaries were. He would have been their 1 or 2 starter next year. If the Cardinals can get his secondary pitches worked out then he has ace ceiling. His fastball looks like it teleports when it's on.

sounds like STL should be trying to hire some of those TENN coaches to put into our system

[Melville]

https://redbirdrants.com/mlb-network-la ... -the-draft

MLB sure liked him. Though a reliever some think the 6-5, 225 lb pitcher will get first look as potential starter. Grade 70 fastball is nice to start

He is a high risk / high reward pick was who selected above rank.
Great fastball with command issues on his secondary pitches.
Equal chance of being steal and bust.
The pick which most interests me is Mitchell, SS drafted as an outfielder.
The outfield has been a disaster for the Cardinals for the past decade, and his 60 grade hit tool is something the organization really needed to add to its system.

Mitchell is an Alec Burlinson, Erich Church, Brendan Donovan, Chase Davis, Matt Koperniak, hitter: Left-handed with limited power potential. Along with their 3rd round pick, they are well-stocked in that department.

Two from your list are not like the others...

[rockondlouie]

100+ mph

SEC Pitcher

KO Machine

I'd say we got a potential jewel, thanks Nats and Halos!

[billybaseball]

Tennessee's coach was on 101espn yesterday. He said they had to completely remake him when he came to campus. Completely reworked everything starting with his fastball and his secondary pitches didn't get much focus. That's how he went from 20%bb to 5%bb. Said it was the right thing longterm for him but it probably hurt his draft value because of how underdeveloped his secondaries were. He would have been their 1 or 2 starter next year. If the Cardinals can get his secondary pitches worked out then he has ace ceiling. His fastball looks like it teleports when it's on.

sounds like STL should be trying to hire some of those TENN coaches to put into our system

Tennessee pays their coaches very well

[rockondlouie]

Tennessee's coach was on 101espn yesterday. He said they had to completely remake him when he came to campus. Completely reworked everything starting with his fastball and his secondary pitches didn't get much focus. That's how he went from 20%bb to 5%bb. Said it was the right thing longterm for him but it probably hurt his draft value because of how underdeveloped his secondaries were. He would have been their 1 or 2 starter next year. If the Cardinals can get his secondary pitches worked out then he has ace ceiling. His fastball looks like it teleports when it's on.

sounds like STL should be trying to hire some of those TENN coaches to put into our system

Tennessee pays their coaches very well

Tony Vitello
MIZ-ZOU

[BrummerStealsHome]

FWIW, most of the mock drafts had Doyle going earlier than 5th overall.

[CrownRoyalCaramel]

Tennessee's coach was on 101espn yesterday. He said they had to completely remake him when he came to campus. Completely reworked everything starting with his fastball and his secondary pitches didn't get much focus. That's how he went from 20%bb to 5%bb. Said it was the right thing longterm for him but it probably hurt his draft value because of how underdeveloped his secondaries were. He would have been their 1 or 2 starter next year. If the Cardinals can get his secondary pitches worked out then he has ace ceiling. His fastball looks like it teleports when it's on.

No, he wouldn’t have been their 1 or 2 next year. I went to UT and follow everything about that program. Franklin throws heat with no movement and his secondaries suck. He won’t ever be more than a BP piece.

[82birds]

Tennessee's coach was on 101espn yesterday. He said they had to completely remake him when he came to campus. Completely reworked everything starting with his fastball and his secondary pitches didn't get much focus. That's how he went from 20%bb to 5%bb. Said it was the right thing longterm for him but it probably hurt his draft value because of how underdeveloped his secondaries were. He would have been their 1 or 2 starter next year. If the Cardinals can get his secondary pitches worked out then he has ace ceiling. His fastball looks like it teleports when it's on.

thx for sharing that.
man, would it be super if he worked out !

[ramfandan]

https://redbirdrants.com/mlb-network-la ... -the-draft

MLB sure liked him. Though a reliever some think the 6-5, 225 lb pitcher will get first look as potential starter. Grade 70 fastball is nice to start

He is a high risk / high reward pick was who selected above rank.
Great fastball with command issues on his secondary pitches.
Equal chance of being steal and bust.
The pick which most interests me is Mitchell, SS drafted as an outfielder.
The outfield has been a disaster for the Cardinals for the past decade, and his 60 grade hit tool is something the organization really needed to add to its system.

Living here in Tenn. I had some previous info on Mitchell. He was the Tenn. Gatorade Player of the Year . I watched highlights of him a few times.
Liked his hard hit balls and he sure could motor out of the box . Liked his hustle . Think with his speed he could play CF in The Show. Germantown is a bit east of Memphis so I was bit too far (3 hours plus ) to watch him in person but all the clips I saw sure looked good.