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JuanAgosto wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:41 pm I would like other's opinion on this. With the organization focusing on a reset, rebuild, whatever this is, what is the goal for 2025?

The team is putting the front office in a tough position. Just close enough to warrant a push, but at what cost? Will Mo, Bloom, and DeWitt go for the post season shot? Or will they play for the future?

Their ultimate decision will be focused on what they do with Helsley. Dealing him ensures a return, but decreases their chances at the playoffs this year. Do they deal him and hope a bullpen by committee is enough to capture a WC? Do they hold him, hope for a playoff spot and let him walk this winter?

To a lesser extent, Nootbaar is in a similar position. They could move him and build for the future. His absence wouldn't affect this season as much as Helsley. But it would necessitate moving others around to fill LF and the occasional CF.

I think they should be judicious sellers with both players. Shrewd deals could impact the future without destroying any chance this year. Please share your opinions.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:41 pm I would like other's opinion on this. With the organization focusing on a reset, rebuild, whatever this is, what is the goal for 2025?

The team is putting the front office in a tough position. Just close enough to warrant a push, but at what cost? Will Mo, Bloom, and DeWitt go for the post season shot? Or will they play for the future?

Their ultimate decision will be focused on what they do with Helsley. Dealing him ensures a return, but decreases their chances at the playoffs this year. Do they deal him and hope a bullpen by committee is enough to capture a WC? Do they hold him, hope for a playoff spot and let him walk this winter?

To a lesser extent, Nootbaar is in a similar position. They could move him and build for the future. His absence wouldn't affect this season as much as Helsley. But it would necessitate moving others around to fill LF and the occasional CF.

I think they should be judicious sellers with both players. Shrewd deals could impact the future without destroying any chance this year. Please share your opinions.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:59 pm Helsley is the key

Without him the team is Closer-less, not a good place to be and you can kiss a playoff spot bye-bye.

That's why they'll wait (unless overwhelmed w/an offer) till the last week (day?) to decide if they deal him or not.

-I think Noot's on his way out, he could be the first to go and he'll bring back a solid prospect.

-Fedde needs to go no matter what their position in the standings is ASAP, same w/Matz.

-We'd all love to add Mikolas to those two but he's got that NTC and might not waive.

-I don't see NADO going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:59 pm Helsley is the key

Without him the team is Closer-less, not a good place to be and you can kiss a playoff spot bye-bye.

That's why they'll wait (unless overwhelmed w/an offer) till the last week (day?) to decide if they deal him or not.

-I think Noot's on his way out, he could be the first to go and he'll bring back a solid prospect.

-Fedde needs to go no matter what their position in the standings is ASAP, same w/Matz.

-We'd all love to add Mikolas to those two but he's got that NTC and might not waive.

-I don't see NADO going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:07 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:59 pm Helsley is the key

Without him the team is Closer-less, not a good place to be and you can kiss a playoff spot bye-bye.

That's why they'll wait (unless overwhelmed w/an offer) till the last week (day?) to decide if they deal him or not.

-I think Noot's on his way out, he could be the first to go and he'll bring back a solid prospect.

-Fedde needs to go no matter what their position in the standings is ASAP, same w/Matz.

-We'd all love to add Mikolas to those two but he's got that NTC and might not waive.

-I don't see NADO going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

I’ve heard some talk about Taj Bradley from the Rays. I wonder if they would deal him and Fairbanks for Walker or Crooks+. I know they are in the race though, too.

Then trade Helsley for best deal you can get.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:08 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:59 pm Helsley is the key

Without him the team is Closer-less, not a good place to be and you can kiss a playoff spot bye-bye.

That's why they'll wait (unless overwhelmed w/an offer) till the last week (day?) to decide if they deal him or not.

-I think Noot's on his way out, he could be the first to go and he'll bring back a solid prospect.

-Fedde needs to go no matter what their position in the standings is ASAP, same w/Matz.

-We'd all love to add Mikolas to those two but he's got that NTC and might not waive.

-I don't see NADO going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

Surely tomorrow is Fedde's last opportunity. If not, the organization is telling us that winning is not a priority. And attendance drops even more.

I agree on Arenado. Its Dodgers or bust.

I also agree on Nootbaar. I think he's a Royal, Astro, or Padre within 3 weeks.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:21 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:08 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:59 pm Helsley is the key

Without him the team is Closer-less, not a good place to be and you can kiss a playoff spot bye-bye.

That's why they'll wait (unless overwhelmed w/an offer) till the last week (day?) to decide if they deal him or not.

-I think Noot's on his way out, he could be the first to go and he'll bring back a solid prospect.

-Fedde needs to go no matter what their position in the standings is ASAP, same w/Matz.

-We'd all love to add Mikolas to those two but he's got that NTC and might not waive.

-I don't see NADO going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

Surely tomorrow is Fedde's last opportunity. If not, the organization is telling us that winning is not a priority. And attendance drops even more.

I agree on Arenado. Its Dodgers or bust.

I also agree on Nootbaar. I think he's a Royal, Astro, or Padre within 3 weeks.

And let's hope, like Mikolas, Fedde has a good start so a team may gamble on him!

Keep an eye on M's too for Noot.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:22 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:21 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:08 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 12:59 pm Helsley is the key

Without him the team is Closer-less, not a good place to be and you can kiss a playoff spot bye-bye.

That's why they'll wait (unless overwhelmed w/an offer) till the last week (day?) to decide if they deal him or not.

-I think Noot's on his way out, he could be the first to go and he'll bring back a solid prospect.

-Fedde needs to go no matter what their position in the standings is ASAP, same w/Matz.

-We'd all love to add Mikolas to those two but he's got that NTC and might not waive.

-I don't see NADO going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

Surely tomorrow is Fedde's last opportunity. If not, the organization is telling us that winning is not a priority. And attendance drops even more.

I agree on Arenado. Its Dodgers or bust.

I also agree on Nootbaar. I think he's a Royal, Astro, or Padre within 3 weeks.

And let's hope, like Mikolas, Fedde has a good start so a team may gamble on him!

Keep an eye on M's too for Noot.

Would Seattle trade a sp for him?