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ramfandan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 00:00 am For me , the more telling games prior to the trade deadline may be the FOUR San Diego games at Busch July 24-27 .

Currently , we are in a vertual 3-way tie ( percentage points difference) with Padres and Giants for the 3rd wildcard spot.
Padres 47-41
Giants 48-42
Cards 48-42

If Cardinals can win that home series vs. Padres that would be quite meaningful to drop Padres back a bit and be in contention for playoffs.
A 4-game sweep by Padres would be quite devastating dropping the Cardinals several games back of the final wildcard spot.

Note: Immediately after the July 31st trade deadline day , the Cardinals play 3 vs Padres on the West Coast followed by 3 with Dodgers.

So I think the 4-game Padres series at Busch with the final game just 4 days prior to the deadline as quite crucial for Cards.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 00:42 am Im going to predict Mo will make a piddly deal for an average (at best) reliever. Its the non-commital, easy move. Don't look for him to be aggressive by any means.

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 23:41 pm Biggest game of the season tomorrow. Big difference being 4.5 back v. 6.5. Then we finish going into the break with 3 against the Nats and the Braves. The Braves have been bewilderingly bad this year. But, they still scare me like the Pirates series didn't feel good this week.

In this big game, we have Fedde pitching. Anyone confident in the outcome of tomorrow's game? Right now, the bats seem to be more alive when Gray, Pallante and Liberatore are pitching. You can almost feel the players are more confident with that trio. Same when McGreevy is pitching.

The Brewers play the Dodgers 3 and the Nats 3.

The Cubs play the Twins and the Yanks. The Yanks have not been good recently. Hopefully they right that ship against the Cubs.

Its a big game tomorrow due to a win tomorrow plus the opportunity to win 4 or 5 of 6 of the next 6 could put the Cards in a good spot going into the break. Then immediately after the break, the Cards get AZ, CO, SD and Miami. They should have a lot of clarity by the trade deadline. They will have went through the easiest part of their schedule and played the Padres heads up. If they are out of a playoff spot at that point, they should probably sell as the schedule gets harder. If they can play well, they could find themselves a couple games up in a wild card position or even in first place. But, losing tomorrow makes first place highly unlikely.

Bad14 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 09:54 am If this were such a big series why did the Cardinals pitch Mikolas and Fedde in it when they could have set it up to pitch Gray in it? I would have trusted McGreevy to pitch more than Fedde despite McGreevy's performance in St. Louis against the Cubs.

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 23:41 pm Biggest game of the season tomorrow. Big difference being 4.5 back v. 6.5. Then we finish going into the break with 3 against the Nats and the Braves. The Braves have been bewilderingly bad this year. But, they still scare me like the Pirates series didn't feel good this week.

In this big game, we have Fedde pitching. Anyone confident in the outcome of tomorrow's game? Right now, the bats seem to be more alive when Gray, Pallante and Liberatore are pitching. You can almost feel the players are more confident with that trio. Same when McGreevy is pitching.

The Brewers play the Dodgers 3 and the Nats 3.

The Cubs play the Twins and the Yanks. The Yanks have not been good recently. Hopefully they right that ship against the Cubs.

Its a big game tomorrow due to a win tomorrow plus the opportunity to win 4 or 5 of 6 of the next 6 could put the Cards in a good spot going into the break. Then immediately after the break, the Cards get AZ, CO, SD and Miami. They should have a lot of clarity by the trade deadline. They will have went through the easiest part of their schedule and played the Padres heads up. If they are out of a playoff spot at that point, they should probably sell as the schedule gets harder. If they can play well, they could find themselves a couple games up in a wild card position or even in first place. But, losing tomorrow makes first place highly unlikely.

ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 23:41 pm Biggest game of the season tomorrow. Big difference being 4.5 back v. 6.5. Then we finish going into the break with 3 against the Nats and the Braves. The Braves have been bewilderingly bad this year. But, they still scare me like the Pirates series didn't feel good this week.

In this big game, we have Fedde pitching. Anyone confident in the outcome of tomorrow's game? Right now, the bats seem to be more alive when Gray, Pallante and Liberatore are pitching. You can almost feel the players are more confident with that trio. Same when McGreevy is pitching.

The Brewers play the Dodgers 3 and the Nats 3.

The Cubs play the Twins and the Yanks. The Yanks have not been good recently. Hopefully they right that ship against the Cubs.

Its a big game tomorrow due to a win tomorrow plus the opportunity to win 4 or 5 of 6 of the next 6 could put the Cards in a good spot going into the break. Then immediately after the break, the Cards get AZ, CO, SD and Miami. They should have a lot of clarity by the trade deadline. They will have went through the easiest part of their schedule and played the Padres heads up. If they are out of a playoff spot at that point, they should probably sell as the schedule gets harder. If they can play well, they could find themselves a couple games up in a wild card position or even in first place. But, losing tomorrow makes first place highly unlikely.

bccardsfan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 08:04 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 00:42 am Im going to predict Mo will make a piddly deal for an average (at best) reliever. Its the non-commital, easy move. Don't look for him to be aggressive by any means.

Hey, Juan, you know darn well that getting JW and IH back "will be just like making a trade"! Didn't know either of them could be a starting pitcher or an OFer with OPS north of .800...... Yeah, we are all Charlie Brown to Mo's Lucy with the football if we really think there will be a meaningful deadline deal. Color me very surprised if anything major happens. Queue Cranny to tell me it takes two to trade....

This is the team we have and the only changes will come from Memphis, except as you say, the possibility of some minor deal for a middling reliever..

bccardsfan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 08:04 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 00:42 am Im going to predict Mo will make a piddly deal for an average (at best) reliever. Its the non-commital, easy move. Don't look for him to be aggressive by any means.

Hey, Juan, you know darn well that getting JW and IH back "will be just like making a trade"! Didn't know either of them could be a starting pitcher or an OFer with OPS north of .800...... Yeah, we are all Charlie Brown to Mo's Lucy with the football if we really think there will be a meaningful deadline deal. Color me very surprised if anything major happens. Queue Cranny to tell me it takes two to trade....

This is the team we have and the only changes will come from Memphis, except as you say, the possibility of some minor deal for a middling reliever..

bccardsfan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 08:04 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 00:42 am Im going to predict Mo will make a piddly deal for an average (at best) reliever. Its the non-commital, easy move. Don't look for him to be aggressive by any means.

Hey, Juan, you know darn well that getting JW and IH back "will be just like making a trade"! Didn't know either of them could be a starting pitcher or an OFer with OPS north of .800...... Yeah, we are all Charlie Brown to Mo's Lucy with the football if we really think there will be a meaningful deadline deal. Color me very surprised if anything major happens. Queue Cranny to tell me it takes two to trade....

This is the team we have and the only changes will come from Memphis, except as you say, the possibility of some minor deal for a middling reliever..

Strummer Jones wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 16:03 pm

bccardsfan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 08:04 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 00:42 am Im going to predict Mo will make a piddly deal for an average (at best) reliever. Its the non-commital, easy move. Don't look for him to be aggressive by any means.

Hey, Juan, you know darn well that getting JW and IH back "will be just like making a trade"! Didn't know either of them could be a starting pitcher or an OFer with OPS north of .800...... Yeah, we are all Charlie Brown to Mo's Lucy with the football if we really think there will be a meaningful deadline deal. Color me very surprised if anything major happens. Queue Cranny to tell me it takes two to trade....

This is the team we have and the only changes will come from Memphis, except as you say, the possibility of some minor deal for a middling reliever..

I don't mind if they play Herrera as the "just like making a trade" guy. He's probably the best all around bat on the team. That WILL be a big deal when he comes back. Walker...not so much.

I learned to stop expecting big deals at the deadline. I'd like to hope some of our guys on their last run here are moved for a good SP prospect, or a good power bat in AA/AAA who might be close.