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3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
by Youboughtit
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
by scoutyjones2
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 22:34 pm
by Futuregm2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Aaron Judge
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 22:37 pm
by dugoutrex
I've been pleasantly surprised with Burly's D this year
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 22:38 pm
by scoutyjones2
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:34 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Aaron Judge
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 22:59 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
You ask (and answer) some good questions. And you shine a light on one of the Cards many surpluses, 1B/DH—types. The others are: middle infielders, left handed outfielders and catchers. I am for trading from these surpluses to acquire a right handed outfielder, and a starting pitcher.
One other thing. I think JJ will play 3B when Arenado leaves. This would keep Donnie at 2B and retain the roster spot for a RH OFer.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 23:04 pm
by Youboughtit
dugoutrex wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:37 pm
I've been pleasantly surprised with Burly's D this year
Very little range. Where does he Play when Donovan moves permanently to LF and Hererra is back at DH only? It’s working not because Wetherholt isn’t up yet and Hererra is on IL
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 23:17 pm
by JuanAgosto
Bloom has a lot of decisions to make regarding the roster. Hopefully he is a better evaluator than Mo.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 01 Jul 2025 23:20 pm
by Wattage
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 23:04 pm
dugoutrex wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:37 pm
I've been pleasantly surprised with Burly's D this year
Very little range. Where does he Play when Donovan moves permanently to LF and Hererra is back at DH only? It’s working not because Wetherholt isn’t up yet and Hererra is on IL
Eventually when contreras is gone, burly defense is fine defensively at 1b. After 2026, for contreras final year his full no trade claus drops down to only a 10 team ntc.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 05:05 am
by Midrange Jay
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Tucker. We have almost $50 million coming off the books from Matz/Mikolas/Fedde. We could also probably sign Lane Thomas. It’s a more Cardinals move.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 07:57 am
by scoutyjones2
Midrange Jay wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 05:05 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Tucker. We have almost $50 million coming off the books from Matz/Mikolas/Fedde. We could also probably sign Lane Thomas. It’s a more Cardinals move.
Signing Tucker is unreasonable and would handcuff this team for over a decade and (bleep), he's left handed hitter
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 08:01 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Now you see why I started a Kyle Tucker thread. We need a RF. There aren’t many. And the timing is right, we need, he is freed.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 08:02 am
by scoutyjones2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:01 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Now you see why I started a Kyle Tucker thread. We need a RF. There aren’t many. And the timing is right, we need, he is freed.
He's not a RH hitter!
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 08:04 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:02 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:01 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Now you see why I started a Kyle Tucker thread. We need a RF. There aren’t many. And the timing is right, we need, he is freed.
He's not a RH hitter!
I realize. But as you noted there are no righties.
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 08:13 am
by scoutyjones2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:04 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:02 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:01 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Now you see why I started a Kyle Tucker thread. We need a RF. There aren’t many. And the timing is right, we need, he is freed.
He's not a RH hitter!
I realize. But as you noted there are no righties.
Oh there are...Antico, Buxton, Colby Thomas...what are you willing to give up? Are the Cards willing to give Antico a run?
Re: 3 or 4 DH
Posted: 02 Jul 2025 08:21 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:13 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:04 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:02 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:01 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:28 pm
Youboughtit wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
The more I watch Burelson play outfield the more I am convinced they need to throw his glove away. He moves like a lumberjack. With Wetherholt at 2B next season Donovan will have to play OF. I would prefer to add a legit RH MOTO power bat and that only
Leaves RF. So my question becomes what to do with all these DH only players? The winning formula is to split DH between multiple players based on matchups but Gorman Walker Hererra and Burelson will all be on the bench. I think 3/4 need to be packaged for said OF and more pitching. They just don’t fit the defense first formula the cardinals need with this low payroll.
Who is this legit RH bat you are getting?
Now you see why I started a Kyle Tucker thread. We need a RF. There aren’t many. And the timing is right, we need, he is freed.
He's not a RH hitter!
I realize. But as you noted there are no righties.
Oh there are...Antico, Buxton, Colby Thomas...what are you willing to give up? Are the Cards willing to give Antico a run?
I was going along the free agent route.if we are including trades, that opens it up but then we gotta give. As you mentioned what are you willing to give. In a reset, trim then add. Not sure the plan can handle a big trade.
Team makeup might be too fragile.