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Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 19:40 pm
by AtillaTheBlue1
they need that #2 to go behind skubal, flaherty isnt that person, and their other young could be stud starter has to get healthy

tigers have a loaded farm system, with top end prospects, and a few who are close.


He's signed for another year, meaning the price tops out at HIgh. Tigers don't get pitching help, they will not make any runs to WS. pitching wins titles.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 19:50 pm
by JuanAgosto
Im sure there will be multiple calls regarding Gray. A smart pobo/gm would flip the conversation to Fedde. But Mo is a putz, so he will do the dumbest possible thing.

Im just waiting for the major announcement of a 5 year Mikolas extension. That'd be a true Mo move.
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Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 20:57 pm
by hugeCardfan
JuanAgosto wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:50 pm Im sure there will be multiple calls regarding Gray. A smart pobo/gm would flip the conversation to Fedde. But Mo is a putz, so he will do the dumbest possible thing.

Im just waiting for the major announcement of a 5 year Mikolas extension. That'd be a true Mo move.

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That's just dumb criticism.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 20:58 pm
by hugeCardfan
AtillaTheBlue1 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:40 pm they need that #2 to go behind skubal, flaherty isnt that person, and their other young could be stud starter has to get healthy

tigers have a loaded farm system, with top end prospects, and a few who are close.


He's signed for another year, meaning the price tops out at HIgh. Tigers don't get pitching help, they will not make any runs to WS. pitching wins titles.
Sonny is under control thru '27. '27 is an option year. If Sonny is as effective next year as he has been this year, I suspect we will exercise the option.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 22:31 pm
by JuanAgosto
hugeCardfan wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:57 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:50 pm Im sure there will be multiple calls regarding Gray. A smart pobo/gm would flip the conversation to Fedde. But Mo is a putz, so he will do the dumbest possible thing.

Im just waiting for the major announcement of a 5 year Mikolas extension. That'd be a true Mo move.

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That's just dumb criticism.
Ok. Thanks for your criticism.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 22:34 pm
by DwaininAztec
Sonny is going no where, unless it is Atlanta. He wants to stay close to Nashville and has a no trade clause to make sure that happens.

Besides his Friday game says that he still is able to deal it.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 23:25 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
DwaininAztec wrote: 29 Jun 2025 22:34 pm Sonny is going no where, unless it is Atlanta. He wants to stay close to Nashville and has a no trade clause to make sure that happens.

Besides his Friday game says that he still is able to deal it.
Yep. Detroit might as well call Sonny directly because Mo has no leverage on this one.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 23:37 pm
by Cardinals4Life
hugeCardfan wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:57 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:50 pm Im sure there will be multiple calls regarding Gray. A smart pobo/gm would flip the conversation to Fedde. But Mo is a putz, so he will do the dumbest possible thing.

Im just waiting for the major announcement of a 5 year Mikolas extension. That'd be a true Mo move.

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That's just dumb criticism.

No, its exactly something MO would do. Maybe not a 5 year extension, but I could see him reupping him. (Perhaps not now since he is leaving, but defintely if hw was still going to be here.) Mo thinks of Mikolas in the same vein as M. Carpenter, Waino, Molina. He wants him to be a legacy guy. Insane!

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 29 Jun 2025 23:51 pm
by vegascardsfan5890
2 1/2 games behind the cubs
Swept the guardians
In sole possession of a wild card spot

And people still want to trade our ace

Unbelievable

Cardinals should and will be adding

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 05:09 am
by AnExParrot
hugeCardfan wrote: 29 Jun 2025 20:57 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 29 Jun 2025 19:50 pm Im sure there will be multiple calls regarding Gray. A smart pobo/gm would flip the conversation to Fedde. But Mo is a putz, so he will do the dumbest possible thing.

Im just waiting for the major announcement of a 5 year Mikolas extension. That'd be a true Mo move.

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That's just dumb criticism.
Seriously, as if Mo would be allowed to do any such thing as a lame duck.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 05:25 am
by 2ninr
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 23:51 pm 2 1/2 games behind the cubs
Swept the guardians
In sole possession of a wild card spot

And people still want to trade our ace

Unbelievable

Cardinals should and will be adding
Should? Maybe. Will? They haven't added anything of substance lately even when they were getting 3.3 mil clicks.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 06:08 am
by Red7
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 23:25 pm
DwaininAztec wrote: 29 Jun 2025 22:34 pm Sonny is going no where, unless it is Atlanta. He wants to stay close to Nashville and has a no trade clause to make sure that happens.

Besides his Friday game says that he still is able to deal it.
Yep. Detroit might as well call Sonny directly because Mo has no leverage on this one.
Ummm, unless they have the Cardinals permission, this is called tampering…

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 07:34 am
by CorneliusWolfe
Red7 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 06:08 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 23:25 pm
DwaininAztec wrote: 29 Jun 2025 22:34 pm Sonny is going no where, unless it is Atlanta. He wants to stay close to Nashville and has a no trade clause to make sure that happens.

Besides his Friday game says that he still is able to deal it.
Yep. Detroit might as well call Sonny directly because Mo has no leverage on this one.
Ummm, unless they have the Cardinals permission, this is called tampering…
What I meant was Cardinals can’t trade him so no need to call. Just didn’t land right or think about tampering implication. It was late.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 07:40 am
by walkingeagle
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 23:51 pm 2 1/2 games behind the cubs
Swept the guardians
In sole possession of a wild card spot

And people still want to trade our ace

Unbelievable

Cardinals should and will be adding
Amen

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 08:38 am
by rockondlouie
NTC

Gray is going nowhere, he loves it here and being close to family.

Re: Detroit should be calling Cardinals for Sonny Gray

Posted: 30 Jun 2025 08:39 am
by Futuregm2
2ninr wrote: 30 Jun 2025 05:25 am
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 23:51 pm 2 1/2 games behind the cubs
Swept the guardians
In sole possession of a wild card spot

And people still want to trade our ace

Unbelievable

Cardinals should and will be adding
Should? Maybe. Will? They haven't added anything of substance lately even when they were getting 3.3 mil clicks.
Jordan Montgomery was a pretty good add in 2022, especially combined with Quintana. Even trading for Fedde last year at the deadline was seen as a good move by the Cardinals.