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Not sure why it took so long to play him everyday .I can see walker being traded, there is no room for him.I like many on here never thought we had a shot at winning over cubs and brewers but they have proven us wrong.They have a chance.And with that we have to make some trades to do this Nootbar and walker first on my list

As soon as he slumps and you will you will be saying how much he sucks

You also see how good Gray is, but you want him moved out of town to the first bidder.

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:02 pm You also see how good Gray is, but you want him moved out of town to the first bidder.

Two completely different situations between the two and you have to know that

cardstatman wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:18 pm With only 1,370 plate appearances and being over 25 years old now, clearly this kid has rarely been given an opportunity to succeed.

lol no kidding

Gorman will always have a legit ceiling due to his raw power.
When he shows plate discipline and makes the pitcher throw him strikes he can be lethal.
The ball jumps off his bat and he has power to all fields.
This past week or so the plate discipline has been there.
I know it’s easier said than done......but if he went the other way more instead of trying to pull everything he could do a lot of damage.

Gorman has had much better stints than this current one….not falling on (bleep) after is the issue

He hasn't changed from what I can tell. Low batting average, home runs, strikeouts.

People need to learn to be patient. Look at Burly this year and how old is he? Most players don’t have consistent success at an early age.

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:28 pm He hasn't changed from what I can tell. Low batting average, home runs, strikeouts.

Chase rate: 24.8% (lowest of his career)
Contact%: 71.8% (Highest of his career)
Zone Contact: 81.6% (highest of his career)
Swing and miss: 13.1% (Lowest of his career)
Line drive rate: 24.5% (2nd highest of his career)
BB%: 11.8% (best of his career)
K%: 28.9% (Lowest of his career)

cardstatman wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:18 pm With only 1,370 plate appearances and being over 25 years old now, clearly this kid has rarely been given an opportunity to succeed.

Shhh.
Sybil is changing personalities.

woofy25 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:20 pm

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:02 pm You also see how good Gray is, but you want him moved out of town to the first bidder.

Two completely different situations between the two and you have to know that

Yea. One guy is 8-2 with a 3.5 ERA and the OP wants him traded to save money.

One guy is good, and he wants him traded. One guy is on the fence, and he wants him to get more PT.

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:40 pm

woofy25 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:20 pm

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:02 pm You also see how good Gray is, but you want him moved out of town to the first bidder.

Two completely different situations between the two and you have to know that

Yea. One guy is 8-2 with a 3.5 ERA and the OP wants him traded to save money.

One guy is good, and he wants him traded. One guy is on the fence, and he wants him to get more PT.

That is a summary with big holes

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:34 pm

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:28 pm He hasn't changed from what I can tell. Low batting average, home runs, strikeouts.

Chase rate: 24.8% (lowest of his career)
Contact%: 71.8% (Highest of his career)
Zone Contact: 81.6% (highest of his career)
Swing and miss: 13.1% (Lowest of his career)
Line drive rate: 24.5% (2nd highest of his career)
BB%: 11.8% (best of his career)
K%: 28.9% (Lowest of his career)

Batting average 2025 .222 career .222
Strikeout rate 2025 .28 career .33
Home run rate 2025 .03 career .05
OPS 2025 .705 career .732

Strikeouts slightly down. Home runs slightly down. Batting average same. OPS down.
So much for analytics. Back to reality.