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Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 12:07 pm
by JohnTudor1985
Stole 4 bases in the first half (38 year-old Goldy stole 5). Has near-elite speed, stole 43 bases in 2023.
Also, not running on 3-2 counts.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 13:27 pm
by Clubmaker2
back?
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
by scoutyjones2
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:07 pm
Stole 4 bases in the first half (38 year-old Goldy stole 5). Has near-elite speed, stole 43 bases in 2023.
Also, not running on 3-2 counts.
He sucks at it
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 13:29 pm
by vegascardsfan5890
He's not as fast as most people on here think he is
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 13:37 pm
by icon
He can't read pitchers very well. His SB rate sucks as a result.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
by scoutyjones2
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:29 pm
He's not as fast as most people on here think he is
Stealing bases is more than just speed.. especially at MLB level
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
by rockondlouie
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:07 pm
Stole 4 bases in the first half (38 year-old Goldy stole 5). Has near-elite speed, stole 43 bases in 2023.
Also, not running on 3-2 counts.
He sucks at it
^^^This^^^
2025
4 SB
5 CS
Career
17 SB
11 CS
Poor technique.......bad reads = bad jumps
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
by Absolut
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:07 pm
Stole 4 bases in the first half (38 year-old Goldy stole 5). Has near-elite speed, stole 43 bases in 2023.
Also, not running on 3-2 counts.
He sucks at it
Too simple. I bet it’s that (child born out of wedlock) Pop Warner’s fault.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
by scoutyjones2
Absolut wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:07 pm
Stole 4 bases in the first half (38 year-old Goldy stole 5). Has near-elite speed, stole 43 bases in 2023.
Also, not running on 3-2 counts.
He sucks at it
Too simple. I bet it’s that (child born out of wedlock) Pop Warner’s fault.

Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 15:53 pm
by JohnTudor1985
He stole 75 (out of 85 attempts) in 2 minor league seasons. He said in Spring training:
"I want to take 30-40 (steals) this year" per John Denton. Something has changed.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 17:30 pm
by ICCFIM2
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:53 pm
He stole 75 (out of 85 attempts) in 2 minor league seasons. He said in Spring training:
"I want to take 30-40 (steals) this year" per John Denton. Something has changed.
When he jogged to 1B a few days ago and we were told Oli told him to do it, he must have nagging injuries. Since the Cards saw fit to not actually have a back[up SS, Winn plays every game. Given his small frame, that is going to take its toll on him and it appears to have done so. I less worried about him stealing bags than wearing down and being unable to play well overall. His bat is heating up and the Cards have a good one in Winn. If he can steal bags in the future great. But, it does not appear to be happening this year.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 18:01 pm
by ScotchMIrish
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:29 pm
He's not as fast as most people on here think he is
Stealing bases is more than just speed.. especially at MLB level
+1
Speed, the ability to read the pitcher and the durability to slide into a base at full speed. I was amazed at Brock for having the durability to do that and get 3,000 hits.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 18:32 pm
by Swuhgen
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:07 pm
Stole 4 bases in the first half (38 year-old Goldy stole 5). Has near-elite speed, stole 43 bases in 2023.
Also, not running on 3-2 counts.
He’s really bad at it.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 18:46 pm
by scoutyjones2
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 15:53 pm
He stole 75 (out of 85 attempts) in 2 minor league seasons. He said in Spring training:
"I want to take 30-40 (steals) this year" per John Denton. Something has changed.
This isn't the minor leagues
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 20:53 pm
by rightthinker4
Winn just needs to concentrate on hitting and fielding. Stealing bases is not a part of his skill set.
Re: Why doesn't Winn steal bases?
Posted: 29 Jun 2025 21:10 pm
by Melville
Afraid his earrings would get caught in an infielder's glove, causing injury?