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Maybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
He came to St.Louis first, I seem to recall. And of course they decided on the cheaper options. I really shocked he didn't wind up on the coast somewhere. Tell me he would be our number 1 pitcher right now.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
No...players never have a say in where they sign, some CT players thinkFuturegm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
Uhhhh what?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:22 amHe came to St.Louis first, I seem to recall. And of course they decided on the cheaper options. I really shocked he didn't wind up on the coast somewhere. Tell me he would be our number 1 pitcher right now.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
I believe he had a demonstration with the Cards and then left town to visit the Cubs. Cards could have ponied up and made him an great offer and he likely would have signed. But no, they let him leave town without even an offer, I believe.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:30 amUhhhh what?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:22 amHe came to St.Louis first, I seem to recall. And of course they decided on the cheaper options. I really shocked he didn't wind up on the coast somewhere. Tell me he would be our number 1 pitcher right now.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
Be careful, you'll be called a spoiled fan!CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
Yep, I remember, and jumped on your bandwagon. Would the Cards/Cubs current positions be flipped if that would have happened?rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:42 am He was my guy while others pined for Yamamoto (pipe dream).
LOL...I've been called way worse, believe me.WLTFE wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:48 amBe careful, you'll be called a spoiled fan!CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
I think so (re: the Bernie article I posted about how scrubs have played 10 more games vs the weakest teams than the Cards have and both have an .800 winning % vs those team).JDW wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:56 amYep, I remember, and jumped on your bandwagon. Would the Cards/Cubs current positions be flipped if that would have happened?rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:42 am He was my guy while others pined for Yamamoto (pipe dream).
Well, it’s a lot easier to get a player to agree if you pay them the market rate.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:23 amNo...players never have a say in where they sign, some CT players thinkFuturegm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
It doesn't take two to agree. It's a grocery store and you pull one off the shelf and pay for it at checkout.
Not if the players wife says god told them to sign with the Angels. Or your team/city aren't seen as Asian centric/favorable as othersdesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:22 amWell, it’s a lot easier to get a player to agree if you pay them the market rate.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:23 amNo...players never have a say in where they sign, some CT players thinkFuturegm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
It doesn't take two to agree. It's a grocery store and you pull one off the shelf and pay for it at checkout.
+1...scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:44 amNot if the players wife says god told them to sign with the Angels. Or your team/city aren't seen as Asian centric/favorable as othersdesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:22 amWell, it’s a lot easier to get a player to agree if you pay them the market rate.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:23 amNo...players never have a say in where they sign, some CT players thinkFuturegm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
It doesn't take two to agree. It's a grocery store and you pull one off the shelf and pay for it at checkout.
That could not be we have Lars Nootbaar he almost got the cards OhtaniFuturegm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.
1. This never happenedCCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:45 amI believe he had a demonstration with the Cards and then left town to visit the Cubs. Cards could have ponied up and made him an great offer and he likely would have signed. But no, they let him leave town without even an offer, I believe.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:30 amUhhhh what?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:22 amHe came to St.Louis first, I seem to recall. And of course they decided on the cheaper options. I really shocked he didn't wind up on the coast somewhere. Tell me he would be our number 1 pitcher right now.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:19 amMaybe a Japanese pitcher wasn’t as interested in St. Louis as Chicago?CCard wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:18 am But the penny pinching owners were happy with Fedde, Pallante and hope of a young guy pitching like a top tier starter. This is what penny pinching by the billionaire owners looks like. The Cubs are clearly a better team. They were lucky a split happened. If the Cubs had a little more starting pitching they would actually be a threat to the Dodgers.