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He is a another front office PR creation

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For a group of fans that largely claims to watch on mute they sure do seem influenced by what the commentators are saying.

He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

To be fair, there have been plenty on here who have raved about his defensive abilities. I personally think he is average defensively. He does one thing better than Herrera, and that has throw the ball.

The last two games, I shoulda hit the “Moot” button.

Kind of ironic a team with 4 catchers needs a catcher...

who are the great coaching disciples that have you scoot up and get your arm broke, catch on one knee even with runners on and increase passed balls , stolen bases, do all that moving if a runner goes to undo the supposed framing setup. Move the glove way too much on pitches that were strikes to begin with.
May I suggest....

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

Melville does, but consider the source. He' JAG who could be a career backup for however long his career lasts.

icon wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:02 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

Melville does, but consider the source. He' JAG who could be a career backup for however long his career lasts.

lol I was going to say the same thing Mel is the only one who raves about him like he walks on water but he raves about a lot of players that suck

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:15 pm

icon wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:02 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

Melville does, but consider the source. He' JAG who could be a career backup for however long his career lasts.

lol I was going to say the same thing Mel is the only one who raves about him like he walks on water but he raves about a lot of players that suck

For what its worth, pages is tied for 4th in drs among catchers. I still think pozo needs to play. Pages bat is too terrible.

Wattage wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:22 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:15 pm

icon wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:02 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

Melville does, but consider the source. He' JAG who could be a career backup for however long his career lasts.

lol I was going to say the same thing Mel is the only one who raves about him like he walks on water but he raves about a lot of players that suck

For what its worth, pages is tied for 4th in drs among catchers. I still think pozo needs to play. Pages bat is too terrible.

If he is tied for fourth then there are some really horrible catchers. Pages makes a lot of bad plays

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:30 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

To be fair, there have been plenty on here who have raved about his defensive abilities. I personally think he is average defensively. He does one thing better than Herrera, and that has throw the ball.

I dont know how they calculate the metrics for catchers, but at +6 defensive runs saved hes tied for 4th in the league, and he was also a +3 last year.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:30 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

To be fair, there have been plenty on here who have raved about his defensive abilities. I personally think he is average defensively. He does one thing better than Herrera, and that has throw the ball.

He blocks better and frames pitches better. He's not the long term solution but Herrera should never catch another game.

Web7 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:09 pm He is a another front office PR creation

If Pages is a PR creation the PR team needs loftier goals.

Bad14 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 17:35 pm

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:30 pm

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 15:26 pm He is what he is. I don't think anybody says he is great.

To be fair, there have been plenty on here who have raved about his defensive abilities. I personally think he is average defensively. He does one thing better than Herrera, and that has throw the ball.

He blocks better and frames pitches better. He's not the long term solution but Herrera should never catch another game.

His framing is exaggerated and I believe causes pitchers to lose strike calls more than steal strike calls that would have been balls.


Just because you see a guy framing a pitch, doesn’t make him a good framer.

I’d also debate whether he blocks balls in the dirt better. Not saying either one is great, but I haven’t seen where one is better than the other one thing I know for sure Herrera is a much better hitter than Pages.

Baseball Prospectus has more detail on defense than the simple DRS - and Pages ranks 10th.
He'll be replaced by Bernal and/or Crooks - hopefully next year.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/lead ... /fielding/