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Beware of Yankees prospects. They are generally waaay overrated. It is especially depleted at the top end. They continually raid the cookie jar to put together the big league roster.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:24 pm https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rumors-tra ... ansactions
Hels and/or Matz? Depending on return
Agree here. He is pretty good when he has been healthy and he has been healthy. The other thing you mention is his versatility. He can be pretty much anything a team needs, which opens up his market to include all contenders.11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:28 pm Matz may bring more than people think in terms of a trade.
He can start or relieve and give you more than an inning when he does.
and of course he's a lefty.
I believe Helsley will be dealt if the team deems to be out of a playoff run. I believe that's the Cardinals position.
My position is to get the best deal for him at the deadline regardless.
11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:28 pm
I believe Helsley will be dealt if the team deems to be out of a playoff run. I believe that's the Cardinals position.
My position is to get the best deal for him at the deadline regardless.
Well that's one way to put it. We are 6 games above .500 and I doubt we would have gotten much for Helsley this winter when most teams thought they had their bullpen set.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:47 pm11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:28 pm
I believe Helsley will be dealt if the team deems to be out of a playoff run. I believe that's the Cardinals position.
My position is to get the best deal for him at the deadline regardless.
This is the problem, Cards always straddling the fence and are not truly contenders. Moe slow to the trigger as always and we miss out. The time to really trade was offseason but he screwed that up, Now Hels value depleted
This is what I hope to see out of Chaim.TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 16:16 pm Trade them Maton...his value is about as high as it'll ever be
which is exactly why you can get more for him -- get what you can as he won't pitch to his next contract most likely.
Dodgers prospects seem to be the same. They either never pay out or are injured consistently.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:30 pmBeware of Yankees prospects. They are generally waaay overrated. It is especially depleted at the top end. They continually raid the cookie jar to put together the big league roster.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:24 pm https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rumors-tra ... ansactions
Hels and/or Matz? Depending on return
I’ve suggested that Matz could bring value but I’ve been shot down.11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:28 pm Matz may bring more than people think in terms of a trade.
He can start or relieve and give you more than an inning when he does.
and of course he's a lefty.
I believe Helsley will be dealt if the team deems to be out of a playoff run. I believe that's the Cardinals position.
My position is to get the best deal for him at the deadline regardless.
to back you up, MLB.com said Matz probably has the best value. He's been great out of the BP in multiple roles.ClassicO wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 20:33 pmI’ve suggested that Matz could bring value but I’ve been shot down.11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:28 pm Matz may bring more than people think in terms of a trade.
He can start or relieve and give you more than an inning when he does.
and of course he's a lefty.
I believe Helsley will be dealt if the team deems to be out of a playoff run. I believe that's the Cardinals position.
My position is to get the best deal for him at the deadline regardless.
Definitely need to sell Matz and Helsley