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Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
by ClassicO
And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 12:55 pm
by Futuregm2
I’m hoping he’s our version of Jacob Wilson with the A’s. Probably going to walk a more and strikeout more than Wilson though.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 13:05 pm
by renostl
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
Agree.
He takes care of either 2B or 3B. Even IF he fails he will get a very long opportunity.

I'd sign BD to an offer he doesn't refuse as a LFer. The Cards won't sign anyone with higher upside.
Let the organization fight over the other CF/RF and the #4.

This team could be close with a trade or 2 and a single bigger signing.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 13:11 pm
by Goldfan
Call him up!!

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:03 pm
by scoutyjones2
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.
LMAO...Herrera?! LMAO :roll:

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:07 pm
by Strummer Jones
Yeah, but once he gets up here, that'll be his .OPS.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:11 pm
by An Old Friend
Futuregm2 wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:55 pm I’m hoping he’s our version of Jacob Wilson with the A’s. Probably going to walk a more and strikeout more than Wilson though.
Should have better bat speed and pop than Wilson.

Wilson is a contact savant.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:16 pm
by 3dender
I wanna see him keep this up for the rest of the month and then get promoted.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
by scoutyjones2
the league is a hitters league...and it's AA. Dude should have started the year here..

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:27 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
scoutyjones2 wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:03 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.
LMAO...Herrera?! LMAO :roll:
I don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:44 pm
by scoutyjones2
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:27 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:03 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.
LMAO...Herrera?! LMAO :roll:
I don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?
I don't believe it exists currently in the Cards organization

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:52 pm
by greyhawk
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:27 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:03 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.
LMAO...Herrera?! LMAO :roll:
I don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?
i think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:57 pm
by scoutyjones2
greyhawk wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:52 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:27 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:03 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.
LMAO...Herrera?! LMAO :roll:
I don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?
i think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.
Herrera's hitting is regressing

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 14:58 pm
by renostl
greyhawk wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:52 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:27 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 13 Jun 2025 14:03 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 13 Jun 2025 13:02 pm
ClassicO wrote: 13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.

JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.

I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.

His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
I think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.
LMAO...Herrera?! LMAO :roll:
I don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?
i think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.
This or make him a legit trade piece vs the NA's and Mikolas trade suggestions that return nothing
of significance.

Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439

Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:06 pm
by CNYFan
I think JJ is the Third Baseman.

leave BD at 2b

Need LF (keeping an eye on Baez at the moment)