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Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:09 pm
by Baseball Dude
About to lose our 8th game out of the last 11. Pitching has faltered in all aspects, offense is feast or famine, emphasis on famine when it counts.
Who goes first and what does the return look like? Not a lot of pieces that need to move would fetch much at all, is everyone available?
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:14 pm
by Braund241
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:09 pm
About to lose our 8th game out of the last 11. Pitching has faltered in all aspects, offense is feast or famine, emphasis on famine when it counts.
Who goes first and what does the return look like? Not a lot of pieces that need to move would fetch much at all, is everyone available?
Well Mo is still in charge. He is not a baseball man. The incompetence is astounding. Team as I have said for years will be horrible for a very long time, unless the owners are willing to buy major league talent. Most of this group are minor league talent.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
by Cusecards
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
by Baseball Dude
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Nope. But I know the poster you are talking about.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:20 pm
by Cusecards
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Nope. But I know the poster you are talking about.
What do you think they should do?
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:26 pm
by Baseball Dude
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:20 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Nope. But I know the poster you are talking about.
What do you think they should do?
I think they should do what should have happened last year at this time. We need to clear playing time for the future, not who we are paying, we need a new voice in the dugout, and we need a better pipeline of players ready to perform. I’m not saying we need to have a never ending line of all stars, just the next guy up to hold the line.
Why would we ever play someone like Ryan Villade when he has no place on the team today or the future?
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:31 pm
by Cusecards
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:26 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:20 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Nope. But I know the poster you are talking about.
What do you think they should do?
I think they should do what should have happened last year at this time. We need to clear playing time for the future, not who we are paying, we need a new voice in the dugout, and we need a better pipeline of players ready to perform. I’m not saying we need to have a never ending line of all stars, just the next guy up to hold the line.
Deadline is almost 7 weeks away.
Too early to speculate on trades. I like them going with the youth with the position guys.
I like Contreras moving forward as a leader.
Arenado could certainly be dealt.
The pitching staff will be going through changes especially with the rotation heading into 2026.
Hopefully we start to see more of the younger arms as the season progresses.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:33 pm
by craviduce
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:31 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:26 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:20 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Nope. But I know the poster you are talking about.
What do you think they should do?
I think they should do what should have happened last year at this time. We need to clear playing time for the future, not who we are paying, we need a new voice in the dugout, and we need a better pipeline of players ready to perform. I’m not saying we need to have a never ending line of all stars, just the next guy up to hold the line.
Deadline is almost 7 weeks away.
Too early to speculate on trades. I like them going with the youth with the position guys.
I like Contreras moving forward as a leader.
Arenado could certainly be dealt.
The pitching staff will be going through changes especially with the rotation heading into 2026.
Hopefully we start to see more of the younger arms as the season progresses.
they need to try and trade what they can before the draft...desperately try and get a Comp Pick from a team to get an extra pick in this draft.
Teams with Competitive Balance picks are Boston, Yankees, Dodgers, Mariners, Marlins, Mets, Twins, Tigers....picks 33-43
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:35 pm
by Baseball Dude
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:31 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:26 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:20 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:15 pm
This reminds me of a Shady OP.
Nope. But I know the poster you are talking about.
What do you think they should do?
I think they should do what should have happened last year at this time. We need to clear playing time for the future, not who we are paying, we need a new voice in the dugout, and we need a better pipeline of players ready to perform. I’m not saying we need to have a never ending line of all stars, just the next guy up to hold the line.
Deadline is almost 7 weeks away.
Too early to speculate on trades. I like them going with the youth with the position guys.
I like Contreras moving forward as a leader.
Arenado could certainly be dealt.
The pitching staff will be going through changes especially with the rotation heading into 2026.
Hopefully we start to see more of the younger arms as the season progresses.
Contreras as the leader during the transition the next couple of years is something I can get behind. I just wish it had started last year. A month ago I had hope things were headed in the right direction. A 8 game winning streak inspires a lot of false hope o guess.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
by ramfandan
Helsley is the key trade chip not regarding the Cardinals but other teams seeking a closer. Yes, he isn't the career year he had last year but his
value at the trade deadline could be very good if there is a bidding war especially if the Phillies & Mets would both want him.
Both teams could use a good closer and play in the same division. Getting Helsley and preventing the other team from NOT getting him would be a big deal for the team acquiring him.
Cards should be 'open minded' listen to offers and play the scenario out to the end .
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:43 pm
by 11WSChamps
After Helsley I'm starting to believe Matz might get more back in a trade than Fedde or Mikolas.
He's a lefty, versatile, can start or relieve and is having a good season.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:44 pm
by Strummer Jones
Fine. Sell 'em all.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:55 pm
by Melville
ramfandan wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:39 pm
Helsley is the key trade chip not regarding the Cardinals but other teams seeking a closer. Yes, he isn't the career year he had last year but his
value at the trade deadline could be very good if there is a bidding war especially if the Phillies & Mets would both want him.
Both teams could use a good closer and play in the same division. Getting Helsley and preventing the other team from NOT getting him would be a big deal for the team acquiring him.
Cards should be 'open minded' listen to offers and play the scenario out to the end .
The timing of Granillo's promotion is no accident.....
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 21:56 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:09 pm
About to lose our 8th game out of the last 11. Pitching has faltered in all aspects, offense is feast or famine, emphasis on famine when it counts.
Who goes first and what does the return look like? Not a lot of pieces that need to move would fetch much at all, is everyone available?
Fedde, Mikolas, Matz, Arenado, Sagesse, Prieto and Crooks are all available for pitching and outfield prospects. RH gets a QO.
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
by Shady
BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:56 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:09 pm
About to lose our 8th game out of the last 11. Pitching has faltered in all aspects, offense is feast or famine, emphasis on famine when it counts.
Who goes first and what does the return look like? Not a lot of pieces that need to move would fetch much at all, is everyone available?
Fedde, Mikolas, Matz, Arenado, Sagesse, Prieto and Crooks are all available for pitching and outfield prospects. RH gets a QO.
What about Helsley and Gorman ?
Re: Looks like a selling deadline…
Posted: 12 Jun 2025 22:47 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
Shady wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 22:14 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:56 pm
Baseball Dude wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025 21:09 pm
About to lose our 8th game out of the last 11. Pitching has faltered in all aspects, offense is feast or famine, emphasis on famine when it counts.
Who goes first and what does the return look like? Not a lot of pieces that need to move would fetch much at all, is everyone available?
Fedde, Mikolas, Matz, Arenado, Sagesse, Prieto and Crooks are all available for pitching and outfield prospects. RH gets a QO.
What about Helsley and Gorman ?
RH gets a QO. Gorman gets lots of playing time in August and September.