The Situation
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The Situation
Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
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Re: The Situation
How about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
Re: The Situation
How do you ensure you tie ? Have watched many games where home team hasn’t scored .Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
Personally, I would have bunted with Noot. Still no certainty he is going to score with 1 out.
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Re: The Situation
You have to tie before you can win? Uhh, no you don't.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:38 amHow about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
That aside, even a successful bunt does not ensure you tie.
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Re: The Situation
Nothing is 100%. Hopefully, we all know that. But VSII on 3B with 1 out and Winn, Donny due is pretty close to it. Winn's groundball to 2B scores VSII.ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:41 amHow do you ensure you tie ? Have watched many games where home team hasn’t scored .Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
Personally, I would have bunted with Noot. Still no certainty he is going to score with 1 out.
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Re: The Situation
Obviously, the word "ensure" has some of you guys all twisted up. Sorry.
For the record, I understand that nothing is 100%.
For the record, I understand that nothing is 100%.
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Re: The Situation
Sure you do. Even on a homerun, the tieing run scores before the lead or tieing run.AnExParrot wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:45 amYou have to tie before you can win? Uhh, no you don't.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:38 amHow about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
That aside, even a successful bunt does not ensure you tie.
No a bunt doesn’t assure a run, but with Scott on third and top of order, that’s close.
Re: The Situation
If a team/manager can’t get a runner from 2nd home with best hitters on team due up something is wrong
Groundball/bunt to 3rd and ANY combination of hit, fly,……gets it done
Groundball/bunt to 3rd and ANY combination of hit, fly,……gets it done
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Re: The Situation
If a game is tied, and a team hits a 2 run walkoff HR do they only count the run that wins? They do not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:49 amSure you do. Even on a homerun, the tieing run scores before the lead or tieing run.AnExParrot wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:45 amYou have to tie before you can win? Uhh, no you don't.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:38 amHow about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
That aside, even a successful bunt does not ensure you tie.
No a bunt doesn’t assure a run, but with Scott on third and top of order, that’s close.
No, it's not close to ensured, this is baseball, after all.
Re: The Situation
It's disappointing and frustrating but how is it wrong? StL isn't the first home team which lost by a run because they couldn't get the Manfred Man around.If a team/manager can’t get a runner from 2nd home with best hitters on team due up something is wrong
Baseball is hard and the other team is trying to win too.
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Re: The Situation
Ok. But the players failed to perform. Your point?Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
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Re: The Situation
Cards players suck at bunting thoughsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:38 amHow about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
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But Argo wasn't on 3b with one out. Players failed to perform. I can't believe many on here don't understand that...Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:46 amNothing is 100%. Hopefully, we all know that. But VSII on 3B with 1 out and Winn, Donny due is pretty close to it. Winn's groundball to 2B scores VSII.ramfandan wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:41 amHow do you ensure you tie ? Have watched many games where home team hasn’t scored .Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
Personally, I would have bunted with Noot. Still no certainty he is going to score with 1 out.
Cards suck at bunting too
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Re: The Situation
It is a fundamental.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:10 amCards players suck at bunting thoughsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:38 amHow about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
How do you fix fundamentals? Whose job is it to fix fundamentals?
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Re: The Situation
No it’s more than fundamental. It’s strategic. By now teams should have a very well layer out plan for extras.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:12 amIt is a fundamental.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 08:10 amCards players suck at bunting thoughsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:38 amHow about I’m managing to win, but my first priority is the tieing run.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:34 am Bottom 10th, down 5-4, fastest runner on 2B, 0 outs, 1,2,3 batters due up......
Are you managing in this situation to ensure you tie at the very least? Or, are you managing to win with no regard to at least tying?
I am ensuring the tie and then going for the win.
So if I bunt it looks as if I’m playing the run, but I gotta tie before I can win. So I bunt minimum.
Why bunt. Only three real outcomes can stop me from moving that runner- K, come backer, pop out.
To assure moving the runner you bunt.
How do you fix fundamentals? Whose job is it to fix fundamentals?
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Re: The Situation
The issue is the K from Nootbaar. The one thing that he can’t do in that situation is strike out. With Scott on second, Nootbaar has to put the ball in play. So many things would have allowed Scott to get to 3B with one out but striking out just can’t happen.