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Needs to be demoted out of closer.
Time to scrap the Hels Bells entrance he stole from Trevor Hoffman anyway.

Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

Has a hard time when leading only by 1. Needs 2 or more run lead to get a save.

Now that he is no longer dominating, we have to continue to let him pitch in hopes he gets better so we can get more than a bag of balls for him at trade deadline!

He can pitch the 5th inning

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

Yep. A pobo worth a grain of salt would've dealt the free agent to be during a reset year.

Yeah the guy is becoming a pain in the donkey! I'm sick of him!

A few well informed posters have advocated giving him a big money extension.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

What was the offer they should have taken?

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:19 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

What was the offer they should have taken?

Don’t be obtuse, you know there were trades to be made if they tried.

Hopefully he’s not injured, just needs some rest.

But I maintain that most closers have about a 3-year effective life (of course there’s notable exceptions). But Helsley is tracking that line.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

No joke

Horseradish wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:26 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:19 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

What was the offer they should have taken?

Don’t be obtuse, you know there were trades to be made if they tried.

No I don't and neither do you or you would state some.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:44 am

Horseradish wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:26 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 07:19 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct

What was the offer they should have taken?

Don’t be obtuse, you know there were trades to be made if they tried.

No I don't and neither do you or you would state some.

Again, you’re being obtuse, ignoring the fact the we as fans do not know what was offered. Why ask for something you know someone can’t provide?

“But he will bring more from desperate teams at the deadline!”

Said numerous dumb people.

Helsley has 13 saves of his 18 opportunities. Only 4 N.L closers have more saves.
Of the closers in baseball available , he still will have suitors at the deadline.