Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
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Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Roby, if he can maintain his pitching health and durability. He has tremendous pitching talent.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
He was hurt a lot last year (or was it the year before or both?). But seems good at the moment. Was last year a one-off or does he have durability issues too?Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:46 pmRoby, if he can maintain his pitching health and durability. He has tremendous pitching talent.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
So far, so good this season. He pitched a very good game, 6 2/3 innings in his last start. He goes again tomorrow evening.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:49 pmHe was hurt a lot last year (or was it the year before or both?). But seems good at the moment. Was last year a one-off or does he have durability issues too?Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:46 pmRoby, if he can maintain his pitching health and durability. He has tremendous pitching talent.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Great. I still don't think we will ever develop 5 healthy starters from our rotation at the same time. Free agency and trade acquisitions will have to continue to be part of the puzzle.Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:50 pmSo far, so good this season. He pitched a very good game, 6 2/3 innings in his last start. He goes again tomorrow evening.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:49 pmHe was hurt a lot last year (or was it the year before or both?). But seems good at the moment. Was last year a one-off or does he have durability issues too?Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:46 pmRoby, if he can maintain his pitching health and durability. He has tremendous pitching talent.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Ixan Henderson at AA is starting to get some attention.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Drew Rom was another one we discussed a lot here after his trade in 2023. Also hurt. There are just so many hurdles for a pitching prospect to make it to the big leagues and find long term success. Maybe something to consider when picking a pitcher or a slugger with our #5 pick this month.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
while true...you've left out McGreevy who has been a work horse in the minors. Henderson and Rajcic have been workhorses the last 2 years.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Matthews wasn't so much an injury as it was discomfort caused by pitching mechanics gone awry. He fixed that easily enough.
and FYI to your question on Roby...he missed better part of the last 2 seasons. Seems healthy now. But I imagine his innings to be limited around 75-100 this season.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Is Matthews pitching again? The official websites injuries and transactions list still shows him as TBD return with the last update from April. Not sure if that’s accurate or just gross neglect?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 18:16 pmwhile true...you've left out McGreevy who has been a work horse in the minors. Henderson and Rajcic have been workhorses the last 2 years.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Matthews wasn't so much an injury as it was discomfort caused by pitching mechanics gone awry. He fixed that easily enough.
and FYI to your question on Roby...he missed better part of the last 2 seasons. Seems healthy now. But I imagine his innings to be limited around 75-100 this season.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
yeah, he threw GEM the other night.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 20:02 pmIs Matthews pitching again? The official websites injuries and transactions list still shows him as TBD return with the last update from April. Not sure if that’s accurate or just gross neglect?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 18:16 pmwhile true...you've left out McGreevy who has been a work horse in the minors. Henderson and Rajcic have been workhorses the last 2 years.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Matthews wasn't so much an injury as it was discomfort caused by pitching mechanics gone awry. He fixed that easily enough.
and FYI to your question on Roby...he missed better part of the last 2 seasons. Seems healthy now. But I imagine his innings to be limited around 75-100 this season.
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Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Liberatore is starting Wednesday I think.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
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Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Libby is hurt? What is it?Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Ct-itisscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 20:40 pmLibby is hurt? What is it?Carp4Cy wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:45 pm Also Pallante regressing sharply of late. Is he worn down or just not good?
What does this mean for the youth movement if we can't develop 1 (let alone 5) consistent 33 game starters from our system? Is it the draft picks or the program? They just don't seem durable enough.
Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
Libby may not be hurt, but how many innings were we expecting him to throw before wearing down after pitching 60 and 80 the last two years?
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Re: Future of pitching - Matthews, Hence, Thompson, Robberse, now Libby hurt
I think Pallante still has a lot to work on. I don't see him as a top of rotation guy yet. The ones with the best shot of being our best arm I think are Liberatore or Mathews. Hence has too many injuries. You couldn't go wrong drafting an SP arm if you could get a college arm close to big leagues, I'm not well versed on the choices of players we might get to pick at #5.