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would you consider it?
No, they aren't stupid.
Good point. I never considered the salary aspect. However, if the Cardinals want to acquire a player that could truly move the needle. They might have to take on some salary to get that type player. Agree or disagree?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:26 pmNo, they aren't stupid.
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edit...actually both parties aren't that stupid. We're not taking on any money at this time. Taking on Alcantara's salary would be stupid. The Marlins would never want Gorman as a center piece
with what we're seeing now, he won't move the needle in 2026...the salary isn't much, but paying him $17million (I think) next season on a gamble....makes no sense. I'd rather use that money on something better...and I don't think it's the Cards intentions to compete next season, nor do they intend on committing money until after 2026/27 (Lockout looming).Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:39 pmGood point. I never considered the salary aspect. However, if the Cardinals want to acquire a player that could truly move the needle. They might have to assume some salay increase to get that type player. Agree or disagree?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:26 pmNo, they aren't stupid.
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edit...actually both parties aren't that stupid. We're not taking on any money at this time. Taking on Alcantara's salary would be stupid. The Marlins would never want Gorman as a center piece
iirc, last time I looked him up he had only 2 good seasons and 1 meh one. other than that, hurt or bad or both I guesscraviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:43 pmwith what we're seeing now, he won't move the needle in 2026...the salary isn't much, but paying him $17million (I think) next season on a gamble....makes no sense. I'd rather use that money on something better...and I don't think it's the Cards intentions to compete next season, nor do they intend on committing money until after 2026/27 (Lockout looming).Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:39 pmGood point. I never considered the salary aspect. However, if the Cardinals want to acquire a player that could truly move the needle. They might have to assume some salay increase to get that type player. Agree or disagree?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:26 pmNo, they aren't stupid.
have a great day
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edit...actually both parties aren't that stupid. We're not taking on any money at this time. Taking on Alcantara's salary would be stupid. The Marlins would never want Gorman as a center piece
Extending Donovan and Winn are probably their only priority.....Winn especially b/c he may price himself out in the next few seasons, and there's a great chance that 100-125 million is our new norm for payroll.
If the Cardinals medical staff examines Alcantara and deems him healthy. The Cardinals just might take that 17 mil chance. IMO. 17 million/yr ain't to bad for a possible ace. Consider what Gray will be raking in.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:43 pmwith what we're seeing now, he won't move the needle in 2026...the salary isn't much, but paying him $17million (I think) next season on a gamble....makes no sense. I'd rather use that money on something better.Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:39 pmGood point. I never considered the salary aspect. However, if the Cardinals want to acquire a player that could truly move the needle. They might have to assume some salay increase to get that type player. Agree or disagree?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:26 pmNo, they aren't stupid.
have a great day
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edit...actually both parties aren't that stupid. We're not taking on any money at this time. Taking on Alcantara's salary would be stupid. The Marlins would never want Gorman as a center piece
you can be declared healthy and still pitch like Garbage.Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:48 pmIf the Cardinals medical staff examines Alcantara and deems him healthy. The Cardinals just might take that 17 mil chance. IMO. 17 million/yr ain't to bad for a possible ace. Consider what Gray will be raking in.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:43 pmwith what we're seeing now, he won't move the needle in 2026...the salary isn't much, but paying him $17million (I think) next season on a gamble....makes no sense. I'd rather use that money on something better.Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:39 pmGood point. I never considered the salary aspect. However, if the Cardinals want to acquire a player that could truly move the needle. They might have to assume some salay increase to get that type player. Agree or disagree?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:26 pmNo, they aren't stupid.
have a great day
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edit...actually both parties aren't that stupid. We're not taking on any money at this time. Taking on Alcantara's salary would be stupid. The Marlins would never want Gorman as a center piece
Frankly, I see Roby as an Alcantara in the making when he was at the top of his game. And who knows about Mathews. So maybe you're right on the internal starting pitching and channeling the big bucks elsewhere.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:50 pmyou can be declared healthy and still pitch like Garbage.Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:48 pmIf the Cardinals medical staff examines Alcantara and deems him healthy. The Cardinals just might take that 17 mil chance. IMO. 17 million/yr ain't to bad for a possible ace. Consider what Gray will be raking in.craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:43 pmwith what we're seeing now, he won't move the needle in 2026...the salary isn't much, but paying him $17million (I think) next season on a gamble....makes no sense. I'd rather use that money on something better.Shady wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:39 pmGood point. I never considered the salary aspect. However, if the Cardinals want to acquire a player that could truly move the needle. They might have to assume some salay increase to get that type player. Agree or disagree?craviduce wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 16:26 pmNo, they aren't stupid.
have a great day
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edit...actually both parties aren't that stupid. We're not taking on any money at this time. Taking on Alcantara's salary would be stupid. The Marlins would never want Gorman as a center piece
I think they'd prefer internal options next year.
Declining attendence is the problem. Spending more on stars that attract higher attendance, not having a total bore as GM and manager, (and also winning) is the solution. Not sure Alcantra is the star they should be spending on though.Mort Gage wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 17:09 pm Alcantara is paid $17mm this year and next. The Cardinals are facing declining attendance, a shifting media landscape, and an upcoming CBA. I don't see any big salary additions the next couple years. Bloom is here to bend the organization to more of a Tampa-like player development model with lower payroll. Maybe they sign a Gibson-type on a one year for innings and depth.