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Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 09:11 am
by rockondlouie
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 09:18 am
by blackinkbiz
Before this season, his biggest issue as a starter was being prone to the "big inning." Certainly happened last night, although he didn't appear overly sharp either. How he pitched beyond the 2nd I have no idea. That game wans't worth wasting a Friday night on.
Hopefully it was just one bad game and they all fully exorcised it from their system. Or the Rangers beat it out of them...
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 10:54 am
by jcgmoi
RHHs have lit up Liberatore on the road this year. One measure is OPS and the righties he's faced have hit 734 away from Busch and 525 at home. Most of the difference is he's allowed hitters to flex their muscles on the road--RH ISO 086 at home, 162 away.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 11:13 am
by Jatalk
I’m still impressed with the guy this year. I’m wondering if it is a mental thing with change in surroundings or differences in the parks including the mounds. All teams gear toward their home park. But obviously he needs to get better on the road.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 14:26 pm
by An Old Friend
Jatalk wrote: ↑31 May 2025 11:13 am
I’m still impressed with the guy this year. I’m wondering if it is a mental thing with change in surroundings or differences in the parks including the mounds. All teams gear toward their home park. But obviously he needs to get better on the road.
FIP at home is 2.27, road is 3.05
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 15:43 pm
by Jatalk
An Old Friend wrote: ↑31 May 2025 14:26 pm
Jatalk wrote: ↑31 May 2025 11:13 am
I’m still impressed with the guy this year. I’m wondering if it is a mental thing with change in surroundings or differences in the parks including the mounds. All teams gear toward their home park. But obviously he needs to get better on the road.
FIP at home is 2.27, road is 3.05
Thanks and that is a big difference. My understanding is that 3.0 is very good anything below is excellent?
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 15:51 pm
by TheJackBurton
Just another hump he's going to have to learn to get over.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 16:07 pm
by An Old Friend
Jatalk wrote: ↑31 May 2025 15:43 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑31 May 2025 14:26 pm
Jatalk wrote: ↑31 May 2025 11:13 am
I’m still impressed with the guy this year. I’m wondering if it is a mental thing with change in surroundings or differences in the parks including the mounds. All teams gear toward their home park. But obviously he needs to get better on the road.
FIP at home is 2.27, road is 3.05
Thanks and that is a big difference. My understanding is that 3.0 is very good anything below is excellent?
League average ERA is 4.01
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 16:48 pm
by Absolut
Jatalk wrote: ↑31 May 2025 11:13 am
I’m still impressed with the guy this year. I’m wondering if it is a mental thing with change in surroundings or differences in the parks including the mounds. All teams gear toward their home park. But obviously he needs to get better on the road.
He had nothing last night and still went 5. Learning to pitch on the days without having A stuff is crucial. In years past I think he completely unravels after that bad inning.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 31 May 2025 21:28 pm
by Wattage
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
He gave up 2 or less runs in 4 of the 6(1 was cut 2 3 ip ciz rain)
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 08:37 am
by rockondlouie
Wattage wrote: ↑31 May 2025 21:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
He gave up 2 or less runs in 4 of the 6(1 was cut 2 3 ip ciz rain)
And the 2 ERs in 3 IP in that rain start goes in the bad column, he doesn't get credit for that one on the good side and you know it.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 09:23 am
by Wattage
rockondlouie wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 08:37 am
Wattage wrote: ↑31 May 2025 21:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
He gave up 2 or less runs in 4 of the 6(1 was cut 2 3 ip ciz rain)
And the 2 ERs in 3 IP in that rain start goes in the bad column, he doesn't get credit for that one on the good side and you know it.
I just consider that one more of an incomplete. Thats why i added the note it ended early. Point is i dont think 2 bad starts is yet to identify a certain trend with libby and more a small sample size sort of thing.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 10:03 am
by An Old Friend
Wattage wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 09:23 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 08:37 am
Wattage wrote: ↑31 May 2025 21:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
He gave up 2 or less runs in 4 of the 6(1 was cut 2 3 ip ciz rain)
And the 2 ERs in 3 IP in that rain start goes in the bad column, he doesn't get credit for that one on the good side and you know it.
I just consider that one more of an incomplete. Thats why i added the note it ended early. Point is i dont think 2 bad starts is yet to identify a certain trend with libby and more a small sample size sort of thing.
rock has been pretty steadfast in his belief that Liberatore was nothing more that a middle reliever, so it shouldn’t be much of a surprise to nitpick a bit.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 10:47 am
by ScotchMIrish
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
Umpires give the home team a break. MLB needs the electronic strike zone now.
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 11:14 am
by rockondlouie
Wattage wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 09:23 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 08:37 am
Wattage wrote: ↑31 May 2025 21:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
He gave up 2 or less runs in 4 of the 6(1 was cut 2 3 ip ciz rain)
And the 2 ERs in 3 IP in that rain start goes in the bad column, he doesn't get credit for that one on the good side and you know it.
I just consider that one more of an incomplete. Thats why i added the note it ended early. Point is i dont think 2 bad starts is yet to identify a certain trend with libby and more a small sample size sort of thing.
Okay but he was off to a rough start (3IP/2ER) it could've been a bad one.
But the trend is there wattage:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
Vs his great starts at Home (1.69 ERA/0.84 WHiP).
Re: Libby Home -vs- Road Splits
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 11:29 am
by An Old Friend
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 10:47 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 May 2025 09:11 am
2025 Libby Home:
5 GS
3 - 0
1.69 ERA
0.84 WHiP
.198 .231 .276 .507 slash against
2025 Libby Road:
6 GS
0 - 4
4.45 ERA
1.27 WHiP
.271 .302 .398 .701 slash against
Good in half his road starts, not in the other half
Similar to S. Gray's 2024 splits (Home: 2.79 ERA/Road: 5.20 ERA)
Umpires give the home team a break. MLB needs the electronic strike zone now.
There is not a meaningful difference in his strikeout and walk rates home & away.
His BABIP allowed is 77 points higher on the road (.327 to .250)
A lot of it is SSS noise.