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Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 07:59 am
by OldRed
Is it time for a true platoon?

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:01 am
by ecleme22
LOL. No.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:02 am
by OldRed
ecleme22 wrote: 29 May 2025 08:01 amLOL. No.
LOL why not?

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:05 am
by Basil Shabazz
No.

Contreras is a true MOTB. He plays very good defense at 1B. His track record speaks for itself offensively and is probably actually softer due to the rigors of him previously being a catcher. He is also one of the only real veteran leaders on this roster.

Burleson is a man w/o a defensive position that is a good LHB to have as a part time DH, corner OF, and 1B. He is also a good PH to have off the bench.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:05 am
by ecleme22
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:02 am
ecleme22 wrote: 29 May 2025 08:01 amLOL. No.
LOL why not?
It's way too early to even consider that.

Also, Contreras's glove is better and bat is historically better.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:10 am
by OldRed
Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:10 am
by Son of Shady
No platoon. Only one man for the job.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:13 am
by Jatalk
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:10 am Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.
True but I think Contreras defense is better and in the long run he has been more consistent hitting. Just my opinion.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:20 am
by OldRed
Jatalk wrote: 29 May 2025 08:13 am
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:10 am Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.
True but I think Contreras defense is better and in the long run he has been more consistent hitting. Just my opinion.
No, he has not not been a more consistent hitter. That's my point, platoon them and get the most from both. Sounds like many have forgotten Burleson hit 20 HRs last year with 78 RBI, which would match any of Contreras years in his career. Plus, he is several years younger and should improve.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:23 am
by Melville
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 07:59 am Is it time for a true platoon?
Two options are enough.
I don't think an entire platoon is needed.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:25 am
by ecleme22
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:10 am Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS

May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS

You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:33 am
by OldRed
ecleme22 wrote: 29 May 2025 08:25 am
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:10 am Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS

May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS

You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:34 am
by rockondlouie
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Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:38 am
by ecleme22
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:33 am
ecleme22 wrote: 29 May 2025 08:25 am
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:10 am Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS

May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS

You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS

And WC was better vs RHP last year.

Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.

Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:42 am
by OldRed
ecleme22 wrote: 29 May 2025 08:38 am
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:33 am
ecleme22 wrote: 29 May 2025 08:25 am
OldRed wrote: 29 May 2025 08:10 am Burleson against right-handed pitching: .298 Avg., .343 OBP

Contreras against right-handed pitching: .234 Avg., .304 OBP

And it is 1/3 of the season.
May 13th:
Conteras: .763 OPS
Burleson: .662 OPS

May 29th
Conteras: .689 OPS
Burleson: .753 OPS

You don't make BIG platoon decisions that last 4 months based on two weeks of slump/hot streak.
Career wise, Burleson has been the better hitter for average and OBP. His season last year was as good as any Contreras has had his career and remember Contreras played in a hitter's park in Chicago. As shown last night and many other games this year Contreras is not producing. A platoon could be used in my opinion.
Burleson's career vs RHP: .271 BA / .753 OPS
Conteras' career vs RHP: .252 BA / .787 OPS

And WC was better vs RHP last year.

Maybe WC could use a day off, but a straight platoon? No way.

Also, I really like WC at 1B as a leader of the infield.
I would consider Donavon the leader with a close second to Winn. Just because Contreras is a vocal figure doesn't mean he is a leader. This team is revolving to the younger players which in my opinion has made the vast improvement in their play and record. Burleson is the future at 1st base, not Contreras. Again, just my opinion.

Re: Burleson/Contreras

Posted: 29 May 2025 08:50 am
by rockondlouie
WillyC career vs RHP
.252 .347 .440 .787

Bison career vs RHP
.271 .323 .429 .753

Zero chance a platoon happens, nor should it.