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luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 14:30 pm
by jbrach
the guy had glimpses of promise with the cards and thus far this year has been unhittable as the yanks closer...you never know

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 15:58 pm
by ggnoobs
I'm happy for the guy, but would you have wanted to hang on to essentially a negative WAR guy for like 7 seasons just to unlock a couple good relief years? I think the Cardinals and other teams were wise to move on when they did. Kudos to the Yankees for doing whatever they did to unlock the potential, but the Cardinals were right to move on at the time.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 16:18 pm
by 1_12_1968
His wife was always a hot Christian girl

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 16:33 pm
by Slip Kid
You could also say the same thing about another former Cardinal Carson Kelly, whose career kind of parallels Weavers.
Started out in St. Louis, traded to Az, struggled for many years, and this year Kelly is playing like Johnny Bench.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 17:06 pm
by MrPostman01
While he was pitching like the Dream Weaver for us on that glorious streak, some Bozos were meh waiting for Flaherty...

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 17:21 pm
by Whatashame
Lucky or smart, you have to give the Yankees some credit. They took a minimal chance on a guy who was just hanging around and look what they found. One of the most successful closers in the game for the last year or so.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 17:45 pm
by ClassicO
1_12_1968 wrote: 22 May 2025 16:18 pm His wife was always a hot Christian girl
Yep. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAE

Is "hot Christian girl" oxymoronic?

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 19:01 pm
by JohnnyMO
MrPostman01 wrote: 22 May 2025 17:06 pm While he was pitching like the Dream Weaver for us on that glorious streak, some Bozos were meh waiting for Flaherty...
Weaver failed as a starter everywhere before reinventing himself as a relief pitcher.

Flaherty was and is the better starting pitcher.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 19:14 pm
by jbrach
many failed starters with good stuff ultimately become good bullpen arms...

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 19:50 pm
by 1_12_1968
ClassicO wrote: 22 May 2025 17:45 pm
1_12_1968 wrote: 22 May 2025 16:18 pm His wife was always a hot Christian girl
Yep. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAE

Is "hot Christian girl" oxymoronic?
Being hot isn’t a sin, nothing she can do about it. Lusting for her is..

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 20:06 pm
by cardiological
JohnnyMO wrote: 22 May 2025 19:01 pm
MrPostman01 wrote: 22 May 2025 17:06 pm While he was pitching like the Dream Weaver for us on that glorious streak, some Bozos were meh waiting for Flaherty...
Weaver failed as a starter everywhere before reinventing himself as a relief pitcher.

Flaherty was and is the better starting pitcher.
Weaver was originally rated slightly higher than Flaherty. He showed early promise after the trade to Arizona, so much so that he was projected as their #1 starter. But he never regained form after injuries until achieving success as a reliever last year and so far this year with the Yankees. None of this should be interpreted as an objection to the trade for Goldschmidt.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 21:04 pm
by Cranny
Met his mom one time at Spring Training. Good people.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 22 May 2025 21:07 pm
by JohnnyMO
cardiological wrote: 22 May 2025 20:06 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 22 May 2025 19:01 pm
MrPostman01 wrote: 22 May 2025 17:06 pm While he was pitching like the Dream Weaver for us on that glorious streak, some Bozos were meh waiting for Flaherty...
Weaver failed as a starter everywhere before reinventing himself as a relief pitcher.

Flaherty was and is the better starting pitcher.
Weaver was originally rated slightly higher than Flaherty. He showed early promise after the trade to Arizona, so much so that he was projected as their #1 starter. But he never regained form after injuries until achieving success as a reliever last year and so far this year with the Yankees. None of this should be interpreted as an objection to the trade for Goldschmidt.
Flaherty is 57-46 with a 3.68 era, 1.18 whip, and 1006 strikeouts over 883 career innings.

Weaver is 35-46 with a 4.70 era. 1.35 whip, and 697 strikeouts over 697 innings.

It’s not even close who has been the more valuable pitcher. Weaver seemed like a good guy and it’s great he’s turned himself into a dominant reliever. But he never was as valuable as Flaherty.

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 23 May 2025 00:40 am
by cardiological
JohnnyMO wrote: 22 May 2025 21:07 pm
cardiological wrote: 22 May 2025 20:06 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 22 May 2025 19:01 pm
MrPostman01 wrote: 22 May 2025 17:06 pm While he was pitching like the Dream Weaver for us on that glorious streak, some Bozos were meh waiting for Flaherty...
Weaver failed as a starter everywhere before reinventing himself as a relief pitcher.

Flaherty was and is the better starting pitcher.
Weaver was originally rated slightly higher than Flaherty. He showed early promise after the trade to Arizona, so much so that he was projected as their #1 starter. But he never regained form after injuries until achieving success as a reliever last year and so far this year with the Yankees. None of this should be interpreted as an objection to the trade for Goldschmidt.
Flaherty is 57-46 with a 3.68 era, 1.18 whip, and 1006 strikeouts over 883 career innings.

Weaver is 35-46 with a 4.70 era. 1.35 whip, and 697 strikeouts over 697 innings.

It’s not even close who has been the more valuable pitcher. Weaver seemed like a good guy and it’s great he’s turned himself into a dominant reliever. But he never was as valuable as Flaherty.
I don’t disagree. My only point was that by 2017 Weaver had leapfrogged Flaherty as far as Cardinals prospect rankings. (However, I shouldn’t have said “originally” since Flaherty in 2016 had been ranked one slot above Weaver.)

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 02 Jun 2025 22:36 pm
by Clubmaker2
On his way to IL for hamstring

Re: luke weaver,go figure

Posted: 02 Jun 2025 22:42 pm
by Cranny
Clubmaker2 wrote: 02 Jun 2025 22:36 pm On his way to IL for hamstring
Boy, today’s pitchers are injury prone.