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So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 07:13 am
by ramfandan
I know we have one week and two months left so a lot can change ..injuries , how the team plays in the next 9 weeks, etc.
What I am curious about and want to get your thoughts is the dynamics between Mo and Bloom in making any trade decisions.
Mo is still the POBO. Will he solely decide if he is going to trade Player X ? Will Mo realizing this is Bloom's team come this offseason defer to Bloom's wishes and deal the players Bloom wants to jettison for prospects ? Will the FO give lip service to the 'we jointly made our decision ' .
What do you think ? Mo was sure inactive during the winter.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 07:18 am
by JDW
Well, your first thought shows the fluidity of the situation. A lot can change between now and the deadline.
That said, I would like to think there's a collaboration between Mo and Bloom and the rest of the FO with regard to making these kind of decisions.
There's a team down on the field, and would like to think there's a team in the FO that have the common goal of constantly working together to improve the team moving forward.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 07:46 am
by The Nard
A lot depends on where the team is positioned at the break. If around the .500 mark, which appears likely now, they need to evaluate what the needs are; currently that would be veteran BP arms, and a MOTO bat. If that cost for part-time rentals is too high, or the right reinforcements are non-existent, or the team slips to under .500, sell a couple of your veterans (even Gray and Arenado) and focus on seriously competing in 2026.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 08:17 am
by BrockFloodMaris
ramfandan wrote: ↑22 May 2025 07:13 am
I know we have one week and two months left so a lot can change ..injuries , how the team plays in the next 9 weeks, etc.
What I am curious about and want to get your thoughts is the dynamics between Mo and Bloom in making any trade decisions.
Mo is still the POBO. Will he solely decide if he is going to trade Player X ? Will Mo realizing this is Bloom's team come this offseason defer to Bloom's wishes and deal the players Bloom wants to jettison for prospects ? Will the FO give lip service to the 'we jointly made our decision ' .
What do you think ? Mo was sure inactive during the winter.
BDW, Mo, Bloom and Cerfolio collaborate. I suspect they will trade all the pending free agents, except RH. Fedde, Matz, are Mikolas going to postseason contenders. Barring the unforeseen, RH finishes the year in STL, rejects a QO, and signs elsewhere for big bucks.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 08:42 am
by CorneliusWolfe
Be bold and gutsy either way. If under or even at .500, sell off all you can. If we’re in first place and handling the Cubs well enough, go for the big transformative move(s).
Not this EXACT move but something in this mold:
Flip Wetherholt, Hence, and throw in our projects like Walker and Gorman for a James Wood-type and a bullpen arm or two.
A move that transforms now, but also opens a window. I know Woods is going nowhere but maybe a stud OFer closer to FA that we could trade+extend.
I know I’ll catch heat for mentioning JJW, but you gotta give to get. The team is closer than many think. A little star power and tighten up the pen and field a contender. Tired of waiting for prospects and dry powder and low hanging fruit nonsense.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 11:26 am
by ramfandan
BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑22 May 2025 08:17 am
ramfandan wrote: ↑22 May 2025 07:13 am
I know we have one week and two months left so a lot can change ..injuries , how the team plays in the next 9 weeks, etc.
What I am curious about and want to get your thoughts is the dynamics between Mo and Bloom in making any trade decisions.
Mo is still the POBO. Will he solely decide if he is going to trade Player X ? Will Mo realizing this is Bloom's team come this offseason defer to Bloom's wishes and deal the players Bloom wants to jettison for prospects ? Will the FO give lip service to the 'we jointly made our decision ' .
What do you think ? Mo was sure inactive during the winter.
BDW, Mo, Bloom and Cerfolio collaborate. I suspect they will trade all the pending free agents, except RH. Fedde, Matz, are Mikolas going to postseason contenders. Barring the unforeseen, RH finishes the year in STL, rejects a QO, and signs elsewhere for big bucks.
Could very well be AND add that when RH signs elsewhere for the big bucks , Bloom & Cerfolio will be smiling that the Cards will be receiving a very high compensatory draft pick. Some speculate about the No. 34 pick in the draft .
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 12:34 pm
by rockondlouie
ramfandan wrote: ↑22 May 2025 07:13 am
I know we have one week and two months left so a lot can change ..injuries , how the team plays in the next 9 weeks, etc.
What I am curious about and want to get your thoughts is the dynamics between Mo and Bloom in making any trade decisions.
Mo is still the POBO. Will he solely decide if he is going to trade Player X ? Will Mo realizing this is Bloom's team come this offseason defer to Bloom's wishes and deal the players Bloom wants to jettison for prospects ? Will the FO give lip service to the 'we jointly made our decision ' .
What do you think ? Mo was sure inactive during the winter.
Unless BDWJr has totally lost interest (or his marbles) then he has to let Bloom make the moves as it's going to be his team at seasons end.
Mo can contribute his opinion but (IMO) Bloom has to have the final say.
Let's hope Mo's ego doesn't get in the way and causes the Cardinals to miss out on a good trade or make a bad one.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 12:53 pm
by Basil Shabazz
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑22 May 2025 08:42 am
Be bold and gutsy either way. If under or even at .500, sell off all you can. If we’re in first place and handling the Cubs well enough, go for the big transformative move(s).
Not this EXACT move but something in this mold:
Flip Wetherholt, Hence, and throw in our projects like Walker and Gorman for a James Wood-type and a bullpen arm or two.
A move that transforms now, but also opens a window. I know Woods is going nowhere but maybe a stud OFer closer to FA that we could trade+extend.
I know I’ll catch heat for mentioning JJW, but you gotta give to get. The team is closer than many think. A little star power and tighten up the pen and field a contender. Tired of waiting for prospects and dry powder and low hanging fruit nonsense.
No way I am trading JJW.
Wood and Walker almost had the exact same 21 y/o season offensively. Wood is having a much better sophomore year than Walker thus far. I know JWalk is not making it happen currently, but before I trade JJW for JWalk's replacement, I'd rather give JWalk a bit more time to see if he evolves.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 12:58 pm
by Boooyah
Mo will be looking to add a “savvy” veteran.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:00 pm
by 12xu
It is "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma". Only the befuddled mind of Mozeliak the Brainiac has the answer.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:00 pm
by Ike Hammett
ramfandan wrote: ↑22 May 2025 07:13 am
I know we have one week and two months left so a lot can change ..injuries , how the team plays in the next 9 weeks, etc.
What I am curious about and want to get your thoughts is the dynamics between Mo and Bloom in making any trade decisions.
Mo is still the POBO. Will he solely decide if he is going to trade Player X ? Will Mo realizing this is Bloom's team come this offseason defer to Bloom's wishes and deal the players Bloom wants to jettison for prospects ? Will the FO give lip service to the 'we jointly made our decision ' .
What do you think ? Mo was sure inactive during the winter.
I think they should let the "fans" decide the fate of this year. Do the "fans" show up, have fun and really support this team or do they kick back and whine about the team not winning the way they like?
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:01 pm
by 3dender
I think all the potential outcomes and opinions were discussed in these threads over the last couple days:
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viewtopic.php?t=1512479
viewtopic.php?t=1512461
I suggest looking through those to see what you think.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:05 pm
by Basil Shabazz
No offense, but with the way threads get hijacked with endless repetitive quoting and childish back and forth banter, sometimes a fresh thread helps people new to the conversation get in.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:07 pm
by BrockFloodMaris
ramfandan wrote: ↑22 May 2025 11:26 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑22 May 2025 08:17 am
ramfandan wrote: ↑22 May 2025 07:13 am
I know we have one week and two months left so a lot can change ..injuries , how the team plays in the next 9 weeks, etc.
What I am curious about and want to get your thoughts is the dynamics between Mo and Bloom in making any trade decisions.
Mo is still the POBO. Will he solely decide if he is going to trade Player X ? Will Mo realizing this is Bloom's team come this offseason defer to Bloom's wishes and deal the players Bloom wants to jettison for prospects ? Will the FO give lip service to the 'we jointly made our decision ' .
What do you think ? Mo was sure inactive during the winter.
BDW, Mo, Bloom and Cerfolio collaborate. I suspect they will trade all the pending free agents, except RH. Fedde, Matz, are Mikolas going to postseason contenders. Barring the unforeseen, RH finishes the year in STL, rejects a QO, and signs elsewhere for big bucks.
Could very well be AND add that when RH signs elsewhere for the big bucks , Bloom & Cerfolio will be smiling that the Cards will be receiving a very high compensatory draft pick. Some speculate about the No. 34 pick in the draft .
Given the relatively short useful life span of RPs, I would be fine with that strategy. That also gets us use of RH for the entire 2025 season.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:13 pm
by 3dender
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑22 May 2025 13:05 pm
No offense, but with the way threads get hijacked with endless repetitive quoting and childish back and forth banter, sometimes a fresh thread helps people new to the conversation get in.
Fair critique in general, but 2/3 of those threads were good, constructive conversations and they are literally from yesterday.
I don't think it makes for a good forum to just start from scratch on the same conversations daily. But then again I probably have too high of standards for communication on this forum and how meaningful it should be.
Re: So what's the plan at trade deadline ?
Posted: 22 May 2025 13:13 pm
by 12xu
Boooyah wrote: ↑22 May 2025 12:58 pm
Mo will be looking to add a “savvy” veteran.
Yes, Mo could be ready to offer Kyle Gibson a sweet deal since Baltimore released him Tuesday. His ERA is only 16.78 this year.......
