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Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 07:55 am
by Basil Shabazz
Look at Longoria's career from age 32 on. Then look at Nado's career from age 32 on. This is what we are seeing with Arenado and I sadly only see it getting better in short spurts. He is on the decline, the positive is that because of his defense and dormant elite hitting ability he will stay above replacement level for the next 2 years or so. But, he will be a shadow of the perennial MVP contender.
If you remove ballpark differences between Coors and Tropicana, Longoria and Nado almost have exact career paths, trends, and trajectories.
In hindsight, Nado was a genius for not opting out.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 08:09 am
by Bully4you
I like Eva Longoria better.
So do you.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 08:10 am
by ecleme22
I was thinking about Longoria the other day in this regard.
I do think that NA may age a little better given his better glove.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 08:11 am
by Bully4you
ecleme22 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 08:10 am
I was thinking about Longoria the other day in this regard.
I do think that NA may age a little better given his better glove.
He made me think of Eva.
Now I can't get her out of my head

Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 08:24 am
by scoutyjones2
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑20 May 2025 07:55 am
Look at Longoria's career from age 32 on. Then look at Nado's career from age 32 on. This is what we are seeing with Arenado and I sadly only see it getting better in short spurts. He is on the decline, the positive is that because of his defense and dormant elite hitting ability he will stay above replacement level for the next 2 years or so. But, he will be a shadow of the perennial MVP contender.
If you remove ballpark differences between Coors and Tropicana, Longoria and Nado almost have exact career paths, trends, and trajectories.
In hindsight, Nado was a genius for not opting out.
He's replacement level now, if the Cards had a young option to step in at 3b
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 09:27 am
by redbirdfan51
Wetherholt, Sagesse, and Gorman are the replacements as of now. Cards need to add some pitching. I would like to see what Gorman could do at 3b on a full time basis. Maybe even in a platoon situation with Sagesse.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 09:50 am
by kyace
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips. Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 09:57 am
by Futuregm2
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:50 am
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips.
Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
I agree with most, but I don’t agree with saying Noot wouldn’t sign an extension.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 10:18 am
by Banner29
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:50 am
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips. Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
I think Noot would resign and if he can prove to stay healthy this season you want to resign him. Walker imo is officially on the bust watch. Hes young and can still figure it out and the optimist in me thinks he will but I can’t count on it. Herrera can play some OF yes but also can utilize that DH spot. Some sort of rotation of Noot, Scott, Walker, and Herrera is very doable and very solid
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 10:47 am
by kyace
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:57 am
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:50 am
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips.
Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
I agree with most, but I don’t agree with saying Noot wouldn’t sign an extension.
At this point I think it may be too late to sign either. If both continue to have very good years and being only a few years from free agency they may wait and see. I can see the fear of a lock out may spur one on to get some money up front with an extension if a big bonus up front is offered. I can see Donovan doing that as he has a family to support and in baseball terms not making a lot now. Getting money up front would lessen the blow of a lock out and lost wages.
I still see Nootbar wanting to join his buddies in LA. If that is the case best trade him with two years of control and get something significant in return.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 11:06 am
by Monsieur De Treville
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:50 am
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips.
Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
Do tell, mon brave homme. What do you know that the rest of us do not?
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 20 May 2025 11:07 am
by Futuregm2
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 10:47 am
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:57 am
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:50 am
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips.
Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
I agree with most, but I don’t agree with saying Noot wouldn’t sign an extension.
At this point I think it may be too late to sign either. If both continue to have very good years and being only a few years from free agency they may wait and see. I can see the fear of a lock out may spur one on to get some money up front with an extension if a big bonus up front is offered. I can see Donovan doing that as he has a family to support and in baseball terms not making a lot now. Getting money up front would lessen the blow of a lock out and lost wages.
I still see Nootbar wanting to join his buddies in LA. If that is the case best trade him with two years of control and get something significant in return.
It might be, it might not be. He seems to be pretty happy there. It’s always about the money though. I just wouldn’t definitively say he is not going to sign an extension.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 07:33 am
by Basil Shabazz
It is eerie how much their career paths continue to track.
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 07:56 am
by ecleme22
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑05 Aug 2025 07:33 am
It is eerie how much their career paths continue to track.
I wrote this yesterday:
viewtopic.php?t=1515285
One has to ask, would Arenado have less HOF love than Longoria if he didn't play in Colorado?
Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 08:45 am
by 12xu
Bully4you wrote: ↑20 May 2025 08:09 am
I like Eva Longoria better.
So do you.
She has aged well, looks mighty fine for 50 years old! I wonder how she could handle the hot corner?

Re: Evan Longoria
Posted: 05 Aug 2025 10:04 am
by JDW
kyace wrote: ↑20 May 2025 09:50 am
Extend Donovan and put him at third base. Saggesse needs to take the Donovan role as super sub. This opens second for Wetherholt. Herrera needs to learn how to play left field this off season. He’s athletic enough to handle it. Nootbar and Gorman are trade chips. Noot is not going to sign an extension and if he stays healthy rest of year and does well should bring in a good return with two years of control left. Gorman needs a fresh start elsewhere.
Writing this on May 20 showed good insight. A lineup close to what you were suggesting just using players currently on the roster looks pretty good to me.
Donovan 3B or 2B
Wetherholt 2B or 3B
Herrera LF/DH
Contreras 1B
Burleson DH/LF
Winn SS
Crooks/Pages or Pozo C
?/Noot/Walker/Baez RF
Scott CF
Bench of Saggese, Pages or Pozo, Church, Fermin or Prieto.