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God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:37 am
by Bully4you
I'm going to laugh my (donkey) off.
All the hater on this site.
Mel
Rock
Alex
Red
Oldred
going to be funny as all get outs.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:46 am
by Adam2
add me to your list
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:48 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Bully4you wrote: ↑14 May 2025 08:37 am
I'm going to laugh my (donkey) off.
All the hater on this site.
Mel
Rock
Alex
Red
Oldred
going to be funny as all get outs.
I’m not his biggest fan. He has done better this year. The reset has brought the best out of him.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:49 am
by slimjay63801
Adam2 wrote: ↑14 May 2025 08:46 am
add me to your list
Ditto...
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:50 am
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
I am also a naysayer.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:50 am
by JohnnyMO
I hope he does and the Cards go on an epic run. But I don’t see it happening. I’m still cautiously optimistic at best that this pitching rotation can hold up against tougher competition.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 08:52 am
by ecleme22
"They shoulda give that award to Daniel Descalso!"
I can just hear it now...
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:00 am
by blackinkbiz
Bully4you wrote: ↑14 May 2025 08:37 am
I'm going to laugh my (donkey) off.
All the hater on this site.
Mel
Rock
Alex
Red
Oldred
going to be funny as all get outs.
I'm one of his biggest haters and I hope he wins MOY by a landslide because it would mean the Cardinals likely made the playoffs.
Additionally, he's been a different manager this year. He only had 3 big traits that prevented him from being an effective manager:
-pulling starters way too early when they're clearly cruising and sitting down the oppo left and right
-burning through bp arms like kindling
-constantly shuffling the entire lineup and sitting starters when the team needed them the most
I don't know if he's finally learning or what but he's not doing those 3 things to the point of madness any longer.
Keep on keepin' on, Oli!
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:04 am
by Futuregm2
He should probably not want the award, it should be considered a cursed award.
2024: Pat Murphy, Brewers (2025: 20-23 so far)
2023: Skip Schumaker, Marlins (2024: 62-100, mutually parted ways after 2024)
2022: Buck Showalter, Mets (2023: 75-87, fired after 2023 season)
2021: Gabe Kapler, Giants (2022: 81-81, fired during 2023 season)
2020: Don Mattingly, Marlins (2021: 67-95, fired after 2022 season)
2019: Mike Shildt, Cardinals (2020: 30-28, fired after 2021 season)
So last 5 NL MOY’s prior to Murphy were fired within 2 seasons of winning the award. And the only following season that was a “winning” season was Shildt, which was 2020.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:16 am
by sikeston bulldog2
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am
Bully4you wrote: ↑14 May 2025 08:37 am
I'm going to laugh my (donkey) off.
All the hater on this site.
Mel
Rock
Alex
Red
Oldred
going to be funny as all get outs.
I'm one of his biggest haters and I hope he wins MOY by a landslide because it would mean the Cardinals likely made the playoffs.
Additionally, he's been a different manager this year. He only had 3 big traits that prevented him from being an effective manager:
-pulling starters way too early when they're clearly cruising and sitting down the oppo left and right
-burning through bp arms like kindling
-constantly shuffling the entire lineup and sitting starters when the team needed them the most
I don't know if he's finally learning or what but he's not doing those 3 things to the point of madness any longer.
Keep on keepin' on, Oli!
The exact intent on my entry and you save me numerous words. I said he was not my favorite. I said he is better. Like you that’s fair praise.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:21 am
by Strummer Jones
The Oli hate on here is cartoonish. The truth is, he's okay. Not great. Not terrible. Just okay.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:28 am
by 3dender
Strummer Jones wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:21 am
The Oli hate on here is cartoonish. The truth is, he's okay. Not great. Not terrible. Just okay.
He has a roster this year that is harder to mismanage. Still not getting Walker+Gorman all that much PT in their "runway" year though, and needed Siani taken away from him for his own good.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:29 am
by JohnnyMO
Strummer Jones wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:21 am
The Oli hate on here is cartoonish. The truth is, he's okay. Not great. Not terrible. Just okay.
Agreed. He’s not great but he’s not the root of all problems the way some here think. I think the hate comes from the way Shildt was let go and his comments. Makes Oli extra seem like a puppet for the front office.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:31 am
by Lloyd Braun
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:04 am
He should probably not want the award, it should be considered a cursed award.
2024: Pat Murphy, Brewers (2025: 20-23 so far)
2023: Skip Schumaker, Marlins (2024: 62-100, mutually parted ways after 2024)
2022: Buck Showalter, Mets (2023: 75-87, fired after 2023 season)
2021: Gabe Kapler, Giants (2022: 81-81, fired during 2023 season)
2020: Don Mattingly, Marlins (2021: 67-95, fired after 2022 season)
2019: Mike Shildt, Cardinals (2020: 30-28, fired after 2021 season)
So last 5 NL MOY’s prior to Murphy were fired within 2 seasons of winning the award. And the only following season that was a “winning” season was Shildt, which was 2020.
I had a similar epiphany of the award.
La Russa, Cox and Torre won the far bulk of division titles for a 15 year period and almost never won MOY. It was proof that the award was specifically given to managers who aren't the best.
It's almost better to not win a MOY, because that means you win games so often, year after year, that the expectations eliminate you from the award to begin with.
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:43 am
by scoutyjones2
Bully4you wrote: ↑14 May 2025 08:37 am
I'm going to laugh my (donkey) off.
All the hater on this site.
Mel
Rock
Alex
Red
Oldred
going to be funny as all get outs.
OK...
Re: God it's going to be FUNNY when Marmol wins Manager of the Year
Posted: 14 May 2025 09:47 am
by Cranny
Bully4you wrote: ↑14 May 2025 08:37 am
I'm going to laugh my (donkey) off.
All the hater on this site.
Mel
Rock
Alex
Red
Oldred
going to be funny as all get outs.
Gosh, it sure would be ironic.