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Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 07:57 am
by Goldfan
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 07:59 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:19 am
by Goldfan
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
Scott is progressing along how a young developing player should. He just got a taste last season. We’re into years 3-4 with the other 2 and they’re regressing
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:22 am
by alw80
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
But his bat makes him a negative asset.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:24 am
by sikeston bulldog2
alw80 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
But his bat makes him a negative asset.
It certainly does.
But if he improves any at all, and if he gets even better in right, he will be an asset.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:30 am
by grgmck
Cardinals are nothing more than a mid-major team striving for a participation trophy. Sad
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:35 am
by Goldfan
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:24 am
alw80 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
But his bat makes him a negative asset.
It certainly does.
But if he improves any at all, and if he gets even better in right, he will be an asset.
He can’t hit ML pitching consistently. This used to be a prerequisite to be in the ML. Players like both of them used to stay in the minors. Especially since neither had a real position. The only reason they were promoted is because this org needed desperately to prove they were advancing talent
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:38 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:35 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:24 am
alw80 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
But his bat makes him a negative asset.
It certainly does.
But if he improves any at all, and if he gets even better in right, he will be an asset.
He can’t hit ML pitching consistently. This used to be a prerequisite to be in the ML. Players like both of them used to stay in the minors. Especially since neither had a real position. The only reason they were promoted is because this org needed desperately to prove they were advancing talent
I don’t think prove was the issue. Maybe need. Needed desperately to advance talent.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:46 am
by 82birds
Baker
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:55 am
by rockondlouie
Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641
Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 09:08 am
by Goldfan
rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:55 am
Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641
Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591
Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 10:02 am
by JohnnyMO
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 09:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:55 am
Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641
Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591
Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter
Gorman and Walker are supposed to get “runway” this year. Let them play. Burleson and Baker don’t even have the potential to be impact starters in the big leagues. Gorman does. Let him play.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 10:19 am
by Ozziesfan41
JohnnyMO wrote: ↑04 May 2025 10:02 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 09:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:55 am
Baker
0 HR
.201 .314 .327 .641
Burleson
0 HR
.256 .302 .289 .591
Agreed send them all down….I don’t put Baker and Burly in same class as Walker/Gorman. Although for some reason Burly is somehow a starter
Gorman and Walker are supposed to get “runway” this year. Let them play. Burleson and Baker don’t even have the potential to be impact starters in the big leagues. Gorman does. Let him play.
+1 cardinals aren’t going anywhere anyway let them play
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 10:40 am
by swatski
Gorman seems to miss more hittable pitches than Walker whereas Walker seems to chase more than Gorman. Therefore I have more hope left for Walker.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 10:43 am
by OldRed
alw80 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
But his bat makes him a negative asset.
.273 is not a negative asset.
Re: Not MLB Players
Posted: 04 May 2025 11:02 am
by Wattage
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:59 am
Goldfan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:57 am
Walker
206 .270 .554
Gorman
.172 .275 .585
So how much longer do we need to see this? Going on years for both. They both have obvious holes in their swings so there’s no mystery why they don’t perform. Send them down to AAA and if they don’t over perform there for an extended period…..its over move on
Scott was a similar case. Seems all teams have these guys. Where do we get a replacement level player. Walker defense is now an asset.
Scott was a guy rushed to majors due to 3 injuries to cf. While walker was arguably rushed to majors, this is now year 3. This is also now year 4 for gorman and hes clearly regressed in year 3 and 4 from year 2 and even from his first year.