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Cardinals bullpen woes has overshadowed improved offense
Posted: 04 May 2025 06:37 am
by ramfandan
Watching several games implode this year when the bullpen struggled late has been quite frustrating . What makes it tougher is that the 2025 Cardinal offense has been much more productive than many expected considering there was not external acquisitions to the club.
The Cardinals offense has scored 150 runs (tied for 12th in MLB). The Philadelphia Phillies also have 150 runs yet they have a 19-14 record compared to opposite 14-19 for the Redbirds.
A while back a poster described the Cardinals as 'boring' to watch. I haven't found them 'boring'. 'FRUSTRATING ' is the word I think fits this ballclub.
The offense has been far from boring. The team has a .256 Batting avg. 4th best , an OPS of .724 11th, OBP 8th . Though the teams ranks 19th in HR's (not a HR team), fans have watched the 3rd most doubles of any team in the MLB.
For me, the offense has been fun to watch overall but the bullpen woes has been the tough part. They have allowed several winnable games get away late.
Re: Cardinals bullpen woes has overshadowed improved offense
Posted: 04 May 2025 06:59 am
by Cardinals4Life
ramfandan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 06:37 am
Watching several games implode this year when the bullpen struggled late has been quite frustrating . What makes it tougher is that the 2025 Cardinal offense has been much more productive than many expected considering there was not external acquisitions to the club.
The Cardinals offense has scored 150 runs (tied for 12th in MLB). The Philadelphia Phillies also have 150 runs yet they have a 19-14 record compared to opposite 14-19 for the Redbirds.
A while back a poster described the Cardinals as 'boring' to watch. I haven't found them 'boring'. 'FRUSTRATING ' is the word I think fits this ballclub.
The offense has been far from boring. The team has a .256 Batting avg. 4th best , an OPS of .724 11th, OBP 8th . Though the teams ranks 19th in HR's (not a HR team), fans have watched the 3rd most doubles of any team in the MLB.
For me, the offense has been fun to watch overall but the bullpen woes has been the tough part. They have allowed several winnable games get away late.
Good post, guy. I agree. The young offense has been much better than expected. Bullpen and Oli have given away a lot of games already. Cardinals weren't that far away from being a postseason team, but management refused to do anything to help, besides a late Maton addition. Disappointing, really. They could still give the young guys some runway and still be more competitive with just a few adjustments. Mo sucks. Oli sucks too.
Re: Cardinals bullpen woes has overshadowed improved offense
Posted: 04 May 2025 07:46 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑04 May 2025 06:59 am
ramfandan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 06:37 am
Watching several games implode this year when the bullpen struggled late has been quite frustrating . What makes it tougher is that the 2025 Cardinal offense has been much more productive than many expected considering there was not external acquisitions to the club.
The Cardinals offense has scored 150 runs (tied for 12th in MLB). The Philadelphia Phillies also have 150 runs yet they have a 19-14 record compared to opposite 14-19 for the Redbirds.
A while back a poster described the Cardinals as 'boring' to watch. I haven't found them 'boring'. 'FRUSTRATING ' is the word I think fits this ballclub.
The offense has been far from boring. The team has a .256 Batting avg. 4th best , an OPS of .724 11th, OBP 8th . Though the teams ranks 19th in HR's (not a HR team), fans have watched the 3rd most doubles of any team in the MLB.
For me, the offense has been fun to watch overall but the bullpen woes has been the tough part. They have allowed several winnable games get away late.
Good post, guy. I agree. The young offense has been much better than expected. Bullpen and Oli have given away a lot of games already. Cardinals weren't that far away from being a postseason team, but management refused to do anything to help, besides a late Maton addition. Disappointing, really. They could still give the young guys some runway and still be more competitive with just a few adjustments. Mo sucks. Oli sucks too.
An experienced manager, not a no year wonder, two studs, one a league level ace, and we have a serious WC team.
Re: Cardinals bullpen woes has overshadowed improved offense
Posted: 04 May 2025 07:51 am
by TXCardsFanX
ramfandan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 06:37 am
Watching several games implode this year when the bullpen struggled late has been quite frustrating . What makes it tougher is that the 2025 Cardinal offense has been much more productive than many expected considering there was not external acquisitions to the club.
The Cardinals offense has scored 150 runs (tied for 12th in MLB). The Philadelphia Phillies also have 150 runs yet they have a 19-14 record compared to opposite 14-19 for the Redbirds.
A while back a poster described the Cardinals as 'boring' to watch. I haven't found them 'boring'. 'FRUSTRATING ' is the word I think fits this ballclub.
The offense has been far from boring. The team has a .256 Batting avg. 4th best , an OPS of .724 11th, OBP 8th . Though the teams ranks 19th in HR's (not a HR team), fans have watched the 3rd most doubles of any team in the MLB.
For me, the offense has been fun to watch overall but the bullpen woes has been the tough part. They have allowed several winnable games get away late.
Agreed. Since day 1, the offense has been seemingly a transformation from what we've seen the last 2 years. In the past, if we were trailing by a couple of runs late in the game, you might as well stop watching. Now, I feel we can come back at any point.
The bullpen has been bad. A couple of good performances, mixed with several horrible ones. Even Helsley hasn't had a good start to 2025.
The future for the position players looks bright. But, we're going to need to fill about 6 pitcher spots next year. It just makes me wonder, how many years is this going to take? And by then, will Noot & Donovan be FAs?
Re: Cardinals bullpen woes has overshadowed improved offense
Posted: 04 May 2025 08:04 am
by sikeston bulldog2
TXCardsFanX wrote: ↑04 May 2025 07:51 am
ramfandan wrote: ↑04 May 2025 06:37 am
Watching several games implode this year when the bullpen struggled late has been quite frustrating . What makes it tougher is that the 2025 Cardinal offense has been much more productive than many expected considering there was not external acquisitions to the club.
The Cardinals offense has scored 150 runs (tied for 12th in MLB). The Philadelphia Phillies also have 150 runs yet they have a 19-14 record compared to opposite 14-19 for the Redbirds.
A while back a poster described the Cardinals as 'boring' to watch. I haven't found them 'boring'. 'FRUSTRATING ' is the word I think fits this ballclub.
The offense has been far from boring. The team has a .256 Batting avg. 4th best , an OPS of .724 11th, OBP 8th . Though the teams ranks 19th in HR's (not a HR team), fans have watched the 3rd most doubles of any team in the MLB.
For me, the offense has been fun to watch overall but the bullpen woes has been the tough part. They have allowed several winnable games get away late.
Agreed. Since day 1, the offense has been seemingly a transformation from what we've seen the last 2 years. In the past, if we were trailing by a couple of runs late in the game, you might as well stop watching. Now, I feel we can come back at any point.
The bullpen has been bad. A couple of good performances, mixed with several horrible ones. Even Helsley hasn't had a good start to 2025.
The future for the position players looks bright. But, we're going to need to fill about 6 pitcher spots next year. It just makes me wonder, how many years is this going to take? And by then, will Noot & Donovan be FAs?
My vision is three years starting with last off season. By design we complete in 2027.