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Simple. When your offense can't sustain the run production needed and your pitching isn't strong enough to hold the other team down, then you're going to wind up way down in the standings. This is going to get ugly. I hope I'm wrong but right now that look like a last place team. A team dependent on batted ball luck on both sides of the ball isn't going to be consistent. Failure of ownership is to blame. Those empty seats speak volumes.

Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

Wrote at beginning of season thr Cards needed more HRs this year..ranked behind 20 other teams.
Started strong in HR dept. Then lost Herrera and others stopped hitting them

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

LOL. LOL. You need to figure which side of the fence you are on. Some days you just love the FO, Bill and the players. Other days you are calling them pathetic. LOL. LOL. LOL.

You know who has hit fewer HRs than the Cards? The Phillies, that's who. Turner, Realmuto, and Marsh each has one. Bohm's gone 115 PAs and has zero jacks.

CCard wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:28 am Just not enough pitching for this offense

Wrong.

The pitching staff is handled poorly by Marmol and Blake. Bring in a competent manager and pitching coach and you'll find instant improvement in the pitching staff.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that there isn't a lot of room for improvement on the staff, personnel-wise. But the staff as presently constituted should be middle-of-the-pack in MLB, instead of bottom third as they are now.

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 08:59 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

LOL. LOL. You need to figure which side of the fence you are on. Some days you just love the FO, Bill and the players. Other days you are calling them pathetic. LOL. LOL. LOL.

Why? I see the good and the bad. I don't hate or love the FO, unlike most on here

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 09:35 am

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 08:59 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

LOL. LOL. You need to figure which side of the fence you are on. Some days you just love the FO, Bill and the players. Other days you are calling them pathetic. LOL. LOL. LOL.

Why? I see the good and the bad. I don't hate or love the FO, unlike most on here

Pathetic? You can jump on and off the bandwagon with the best of them. It must be your AD/HD.

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 09:40 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 09:35 am

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 08:59 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

LOL. LOL. You need to figure which side of the fence you are on. Some days you just love the FO, Bill and the players. Other days you are calling them pathetic. LOL. LOL. LOL.

Why? I see the good and the bad. I don't hate or love the FO, unlike most on here

Pathetic? You can jump on and off the bandwagon with the best of them. It must be your AD/HD.

No. I can't help you understand how it's reasonable that you can see the good and the bad and be capable of speaking to it. Things aren't all dark and bitter, or all sunshine and rainbows.

Says a lot about someone who only sees things one way or the other

CCard wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:28 am Simple. When your offense can't sustain the run production needed and your pitching isn't strong enough to hold the other team down, then you're going to wind up way down in the standings. This is going to get ugly. I hope I'm wrong but right now that look like a last place team. A team dependent on batted ball luck on both sides of the ball isn't going to be consistent. Failure of ownership is to blame. Those empty seats speak volumes.

Plenty of pitching. Many 6 plus inning games. You’re right, the offense is weak. Your thread should have said not enough offense to support the pitching.

not enough offense for this pitching

jbrach wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 09:48 am not enough offense for this pitching

Exactly. All vice-versas are true.

Not enough of X for Y = a sub .500 team

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

Bingo

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 10:21 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

Bingo

The interesting thing is this team leads baseball in doubles with 61. That’s something we’ve lacked for years. Also lead in IBB’s, which is kind of interesting. But, also tied for 2nd most in GDP’s. And still lack in HRs (T-21st) and tied for fewest in triples.

Cardinals: .263/.333/.397
Cubs: .260/.340/.444

Pretty similar avg/OBP, but Cubs kill us at SLG% and have almost double the steals, so they’ve scored 41 more runs than us. And they’ve hit into 18 less DP’s than our 26 Cubs are the only team in baseball with less than 10 GDP’s still. That will likely even out somewhat over the season at least.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 10:25 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 10:21 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

Bingo

The interesting thing is this team leads baseball in doubles with 61. That’s something we’ve lacked for years. Also lead in IBB’s, which is kind of interesting. But, also tied for 2nd most in GDP’s. And still lack in HRs (T-21st) and tied for fewest in triples.

Cardinals: .263/.333/.397
Cubs: .260/.340/.444

Pretty similar avg/OBP, but Cubs kill us at SLG% and have almost double the steals, so they’ve scored 41 more runs than us. And they’ve hit into 18 less DP’s than our 26

The doubles stat is great. But is it a lead off double hence stranded. Or an rbi double.

As for IBB I think they are setting up DP. Oli needs to see who they are skipping and focus on the hitter the other team chooses to pitch to. Gotta be a correlation.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 10:30 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 10:25 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 10:21 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 07:50 am Lack of HRs. Herrera has been gone for 3 weeks and still tied for team lead with 4.

Inability to win on the road...pathetic.

Bingo

The interesting thing is this team leads baseball in doubles with 61. That’s something we’ve lacked for years. Also lead in IBB’s, which is kind of interesting. But, also tied for 2nd most in GDP’s. And still lack in HRs (T-21st) and tied for fewest in triples.

Cardinals: .263/.333/.397
Cubs: .260/.340/.444

Pretty similar avg/OBP, but Cubs kill us at SLG% and have almost double the steals, so they’ve scored 41 more runs than us. And they’ve hit into 18 less DP’s than our 26

The doubles stat is great. But is it a lead off double hence stranded. Or an rbi double.

As for IBB I think they are setting up DP. Oli needs to see who they are skipping and focus on the hitter the other team chooses to pitch to. Gotta be a correlation.

Arenado leads baseball with 3 intentional walks and Nootbaar is 2nd on the team with 2.