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Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am
by Kentucky kid
so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 07:19 am
by Cranny
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Defined business plan. Gain strength through better development of players within the system and fill any remaining holes through outside acquisition.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 07:24 am
by WLTFE
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Now you've started something!

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 07:33 am
by redbirdfan51
Cranny wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:19 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Defined business plan. Gain strength through better development of players within the system and fill any remaining holes through outside acquisition.
Bloom has a big job ahead of him. Replacing Mo with Chaim cannot come soon enough. I hope Bloom gets the support from ownership he needs to rebuild this team.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 07:42 am
by TraveledLessRoad
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Yes. A truly profound statement from Bernie. Also, Matt Painter to Mizzou!

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:12 am
by Goldfan
Cranny wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:19 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Defined business plan. Gain strength through better development of players within the system and fill any remaining holes through outside acquisition.
This org has been sliding off the rails for a decade. How can you trust an owner who was complicit with MO in all the terrible decisions that got us to this point…..to have any ability to right the ship? And the process you outline will take YEARS, IF they hit on most prospects. Revenues will be terrible given attendance so obviously no big name signings that might improve fan interest. BDW/MO have really blown up the Golden Goose.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:14 am
by woofy25
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:42 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Yes. A truly profound statement from Bernie. Also, Matt Painter to Mizzou!
It's been 14 years.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:29 am
by Slip Kid
Cranny wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:19 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Defined business plan. Gain strength through better development of players within the system and fill any remaining holes through outside acquisition.
The problem with that plan is there are numerous holes to fill, and the ownership has shown thru past actions a strong reluctance to pay for free agents.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:38 am
by Cranny
Slip Kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:29 am
Cranny wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:19 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Defined business plan. Gain strength through better development of players within the system and fill any remaining holes through outside acquisition.
The problem with that plan is there are numerous holes to fill, and the ownership has shown thru past actions a strong reluctance to pay for free agents.
You don’t know what holes there are to fill yet, until you see how the younger players perform over this season - Herrera, Donovan, Gorman. Winn, Saggese, Nootbaar, Scott, Walker, Liberatore, etc. With Mathews and Wetherholt on the horizon. But what holes there are to fill may be short term older players like Berkman, Beltran, Lester, etc.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
by TraveledLessRoad
woofy25 wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:14 am
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:42 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Yes. A truly profound statement from Bernie. Also, Matt Painter to Mizzou!
It's been 14 years.
Which tells you how catastrophically bad of a take it was.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:49 am
by Cranny
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:45 am
woofy25 wrote: 24 Apr 2025 08:14 am
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:42 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:13 am so much is screwed up about cardinal baseball.Thank you Bernie for telling like it is!!!
Yes. A truly profound statement from Bernie. Also, Matt Painter to Mizzou!
It's been 14 years.
Which tells you how catastrophically bad of a take it was.
You’re right. All those winning seasons didn’t lead to #12.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:56 am
by freed5179
redbirdfan51 wrote: 24 Apr 2025 07:33 am
Bloom has a big job ahead of him. Replacing Mo with Chaim cannot come soon enough. I hope Bloom gets the support from ownership he needs to rebuild this team.
Ownership doesn't much seem to care anymore, and that is reflected on the field and in the stands.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 08:56 am
by slimjay63801
This season is exactly what I expected it to be. Same team as last year will get the same results this year. I love Cardinal baseball and have for decades but expecting anything other than mediocrity until they start paying money for All Star type talent, this is what you get. Too many people on here are ready to jump off the ledge.. Why? This is an average team at best until they decide to spend some money. It's just the facts!

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 09:10 am
by Lloyd Braun
My good friends (husband & wife) did not renew their season tickets for 2025. They had 4 seats total.

Last year, they were on the fence, due the downward spiral of the Cardinals play and the fact that they had no idea who would even be on the roster this year. Ultimately, they had decided they'd likely renew. They live only 10 mins from the stadium and they enjoy the activity.

Then they received their end-of-year, season ticket holder appreciation gift - as was customary.

They got one mug - for 4 seats. One mug to be shared between 4 people.

In previous years, they got a gift for each ticket holder. In 2024, the Cardinals only gave 1 gift per group of seats.

My friends called to ask where the other three gift items were. The Cardinals said they were only giving out one gift per group going forward.

That was the last straw. The Cardinals proved right then and there... they are cheap, penny-pinching, unappreciative, cold-hearted owners, that care nothing about the blue-collar fans that keep their business afloat.

It probably cost $0.99 to make and ship those mugs. But the Cardinals are so cheap, short-sited, and so bad at business these days, that they were willing to lose thousands of dollars per group from ticket sales, all to save a couple of bucks on cheap mug giveaways.

That tells you everything one needs to know about the priority of the owners and how little they give care at all today. We have to pray they sell, otherwise, this is just the new norm. And it will likely get worse and worse.

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 09:22 am
by WLTFE
Lloyd Braun wrote: 24 Apr 2025 09:10 am My good friends (husband & wife) did not renew their season tickets for 2025. They had 4 seats total.

Last year, they were on the fence, due the downward spiral of the Cardinals play and the fact that they had no idea who would even be on the roster this year. Ultimately, they had decided they'd likely renew. They live only 10 mins from the stadium and they enjoy the activity.

Then they received their end-of-year, season ticket holder appreciation gift - as was customary.

They got one mug - for 4 seats. One mug to be shared between 4 people.

In previous years, they got a gift for each ticket holder. In 2024, the Cardinals only gave 1 gift per group of seats.

My friends called to ask where the other three gift items were. The Cardinals said they were only giving out one gift per group going forward.

That was the last straw. The Cardinals proved right then and there... they are cheap, penny-pinching, unappreciative, cold-hearted owners, that care nothing about the blue-collar fans that keep their business afloat.

It probably cost $0.99 to make and ship those mugs. But the Cardinals are so cheap, short-sited, and so bad at business these days, that they were willing to lose thousands of dollars per group from ticket sales, all to save a couple of bucks on cheap mug giveaways.

That tells you everything one needs to know about the priority of the owners and how little they give care at all today. We have to pray they sell, otherwise, this is just the new norm. And it will likely get worse and worse.
+1

Re: Bernie said it best , when he said

Posted: 24 Apr 2025 10:39 am
by Absolut
Lloyd Braun wrote: 24 Apr 2025 09:10 am My good friends (husband & wife) did not renew their season tickets for 2025. They had 4 seats total.

Last year, they were on the fence, due the downward spiral of the Cardinals play and the fact that they had no idea who would even be on the roster this year. Ultimately, they had decided they'd likely renew. They live only 10 mins from the stadium and they enjoy the activity.

Then they received their end-of-year, season ticket holder appreciation gift - as was customary.

They got one mug - for 4 seats. One mug to be shared between 4 people.

In previous years, they got a gift for each ticket holder. In 2024, the Cardinals only gave 1 gift per group of seats.

My friends called to ask where the other three gift items were. The Cardinals said they were only giving out one gift per group going forward.

That was the last straw. The Cardinals proved right then and there... they are cheap, penny-pinching, unappreciative, cold-hearted owners, that care nothing about the blue-collar fans that keep their business afloat.

It probably cost $0.99 to make and ship those mugs. But the Cardinals are so cheap, short-sited, and so bad at business these days, that they were willing to lose thousands of dollars per group from ticket sales, all to save a couple of bucks on cheap mug giveaways.

That tells you everything one needs to know about the priority of the owners and how little they give care at all today. We have to pray they sell, otherwise, this is just the new norm. And it will likely get worse and worse.
They got mugged!