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A stopper wins EVERY game that has a losing streak attached to it ? Whether the team wins or loses may not determine on the effectiveness of the pitcher on the mound . Ex. In 1968, Bob Gibson had an astounding 1.12 ERA (Lowest in MLB history that is still the record 57 years later )sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
I’m talking about a pitcher who ends a losing streak on his dime. Might not win many others but he stops the bleeding. We need that today. Four game skids are not nice. As for offense, yes they win games. But not a 8-7 type. Need a stop.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:53 amA stopper wins EVERY game that has a losing streak attached to it ? Whether the team wins or loses may not determine on the effectiveness of the pitcher on the mound . Ex. In 1968, Bob Gibson had an astounding 1.12 ERA (Lowest in MLB history that is still the record 57 years later )sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
That year Gibson lost 9 games . He completed 28 of 34 starts that year with 13 shutouts. You still need your offense to score a couple runs for you for the 'stopper' to win the game .
Could he be a Stacer?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
Good point. An Ace performance should double as a stop as long as we win. He could Ace one and not win. That’s not a knock on the Ace.Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:03 amCould he be a Stacer?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
My definition of stopper, like your’s Dog, is a starter who stops a losing streak. Stops the bleeding. Stoppers have three things—stuff, command and grit. Sonny has the grit, he still has command most days, but his stuff is fading, the way Waino’s stuff began to fade (before the precipitous decline).sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
What current players would you consider stoppers and what current players would you consider an ace?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
Great question. No Ace. Stopper- we have only had two losing streaks of note.Boooyah wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:19 amWhat current players would you consider stoppers and what current players would you consider an ace?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
I mean league widesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:22 amGreat question. No Ace. Stopper- we have only had two losing streaks of note.Boooyah wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:19 amWhat current players would you consider stoppers and what current players would you consider an ace?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
Oooooh. I think if Gray stops today he may lead the majors at three.Boooyah wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:46 amI mean league widesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:22 amGreat question. No Ace. Stopper- we have only had two losing streaks of note.Boooyah wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:19 amWhat current players would you consider stoppers and what current players would you consider an ace?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
Can you be both?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
Discuss please. Stopper- when he pitches they may not win, but if it’s a losing streak he stops it. Depends also on the offense to score runs. Ace. Best pitcher by stats and record.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:58 amCan you be both?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
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A rare breed anymore. Mattie Morris. Suppan Danny Cox. Tewks, CC type guys. As and if memory serves.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:15 amMy definition of stopper, like your’s Dog, is a starter who stops a losing streak. Stops the bleeding. Stoppers have three things—stuff, command and grit. Sonny has the grit, he still has command most days, but his stuff is fading, the way Waino’s stuff began to fade (before the precipitous decline).sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
Agree with 4 game skids not nice. Just wanted to make sure that if Gray allows 1, 2 , or 3 runs that he is not the goat if the Cards lose the game.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:01 amI’m talking about a pitcher who ends a losing streak on his dime. Might not win many others but he stops the bleeding. We need that today. Four game skids are not nice. As for offense, yes they win games. But not a 8-7 type. Need a stop.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:53 amA stopper wins EVERY game that has a losing streak attached to it ? Whether the team wins or loses may not determine on the effectiveness of the pitcher on the mound . Ex. In 1968, Bob Gibson had an astounding 1.12 ERA (Lowest in MLB history that is still the record 57 years later )sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
That year Gibson lost 9 games . He completed 28 of 34 starts that year with 13 shutouts. You still need your offense to score a couple runs for you for the 'stopper' to win the game .
No. Team game. He needs offense. Libby needed the same. 1.2.3 runs thru six would be a fine QS. I’d take my offensive chances at that point.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 12:33 pmAgree with 4 game skids not nice. Just wanted to make sure that if Gray allows 1, 2 , or 3 runs that he is not the goat if the Cards lose the game.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 11:01 amI’m talking about a pitcher who ends a losing streak on his dime. Might not win many others but he stops the bleeding. We need that today. Four game skids are not nice. As for offense, yes they win games. But not a 8-7 type. Need a stop.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:53 amA stopper wins EVERY game that has a losing streak attached to it ? Whether the team wins or loses may not determine on the effectiveness of the pitcher on the mound . Ex. In 1968, Bob Gibson had an astounding 1.12 ERA (Lowest in MLB history that is still the record 57 years later )sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025 10:34 am Good morning.
Need a stop. An Ace is your best pitcher but doesn’t bean he stops losing streaks.
A stopper wins every game that has a losing streak attatched to it. Today we need a stop.
Go Cards.
That year Gibson lost 9 games . He completed 28 of 34 starts that year with 13 shutouts. You still need your offense to score a couple runs for you for the 'stopper' to win the game .