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Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am
by Shady
Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:33 am
by ramfandan
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
So what’s the comparison point..
Should we be very impressed that a player with only 22 at bats ha s higher batting average ?
Just wondering

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:34 am
by Shady
ramfandan wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:33 am
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
So what’s the comparison point..
Should we be very impressed that a player with only 22 at bats ha s higher batting average ?
Just wondering
I am more concerned about the BAs of some guys with quite a few ABs.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:35 am
by Futuregm2
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
What good is a singles hitter when they are fat and slow and don’t walk and don’t hit for power? Burleson’s last HR was August 17, 2024. At least 209 PAs ago. He has a whopping 13 RBI since then.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:40 am
by slimjay63801
Futuregm2 wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:35 am
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
What good is a singles hitter when they are fat and slow and don’t walk and don’t hit for power? Burleson’s last HR was August 17, 2024. At least 209 PAs ago. He has a whopping 13 RBI since then.
Oh wow! I didn't realize he's been that bad.. That is absolutely woeful...

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:42 am
by Shady
slimjay63801 wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:40 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:35 am
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
What good is a singles hitter when they are fat and slow and don’t walk and don’t hit for power? Burleson’s last HR was August 17, 2024. At least 209 PAs ago. He has a whopping 13 RBI since then.
Oh wow! I didn't realize he's been that bad.. That is absolutely woeful...
How productive have Walker and Contreras been?

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:44 am
by slimjay63801
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:42 am
slimjay63801 wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:40 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:35 am
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
What good is a singles hitter when they are fat and slow and don’t walk and don’t hit for power? Burleson’s last HR was August 17, 2024. At least 209 PAs ago. He has a whopping 13 RBI since then.
Oh wow! I didn't realize he's been that bad.. That is absolutely woeful...
How productive have Walker and Contreras been?
Walker more than Contreras, for sure.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:46 am
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
Yay, Burleson slapped a single! Now go chasing bad pitches the rest of the game. Ken Reitz had a career .260 average but The Zamboni was not an offensive dynamo.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:49 am
by greyhawk
other than the title, does this qualify as the 3rd Saggese thread in the last 3 days?

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:50 am
by rockondlouie
How many of these idiotic, failed attempts at comp threads/posts are you going to make trying to make your beloved Burleson look good and WillyC, a multi time all-star w/a career .806 OPS who's in a mini slump, look bad after a mere 18 games? :roll:

I'll repeat in case you missed it:

Bumbles/.627 OPS

-Bottom 1% sweet-spot%

-Bottom 1% barrel %

-Bottom 7% xwOBA

-Bottom 10% xSLG

-Bottom 4% in sprintspeed



-TOP 9% in Whiff%

-TOP 6% in K%

These statcast rankings SCREAM........................AAA!

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:51 am
by Futuregm2
greyhawk wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:49 am other than the title, does this qualify as the 3rd Saggese thread in the last 3 days?
Is it a Saggese thread, a Burleson thread, or a let’s bash Contreras because he thinks nobody else is frustrated at Contreras this season thread?

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:52 am
by Shady
Burly has been taking some deserved heat for poor production at DH. But aren't RF and 1B production just as vital? Rather than moan so much, maybe we should just start pulling for Burleson, Walker and Contreras to hit to their potential.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:53 am
by NYCardsFan
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:15 am Saggese at .455, Burleson at .263, Walker at .239 and Contreras a whopping .139.
Setting aside the inanity of comparing batting averages (or pretty much anything else) over such small samples, last year you (erroneously) claimed that Burleson's batting average was suppressed by bad luck because he allegedly was hitting "rockets" right at people. Well, let's take a look at the statcast xBAs so far this season (obligatory SSS warning):

Player/PAs/BA/xBA/Difference
Saggese: 23/.455/.382/+.073
Contreras: 78/.139/.212/-.073
Burleson: 61/.263/.208/+.055
Walker: 73/.239/.201/+.038

Why aren't you similarly talking about all the low EV, low xBA hits Burleson has gotten so far this season with his 0.0% barrel rate?

Furthermore,

Player/PAs/wOBA/xwOBA/Difference
Saggese: 23/.457/.426/+.031
Contreras: 78/.192/.290/-.098
Burleson: 61/.277/.236/+.041
Walker: 73/.291/.258/+.033

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 11:53 am
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:52 am Burly has been taking some deserved heat for poor production at DH. But aren't RF and 1B production just as vital?
This thread was a pretext for your Burleson, now shifting toward Saggese, obsession. I'm all for Saggese taking Burleson's ABs.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 12:02 pm
by Shady
Mort Gage wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:53 am
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:52 am Burly has been taking some deserved heat for poor production at DH. But aren't RF and 1B production just as vital?
This thread was a pretext for your Burleson, now shifting toward Saggese, obsession. I'm all for Saggese taking Burleson's ABs.
And maybe some of the slumping Contreras' ABs. In addition to, possibly, DH. Wonder if Saggese could be OK at 1B, defensively, occasionally.

Re: Let's compare some current batting averages

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 12:07 pm
by craviduce
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 12:02 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:53 am
Shady wrote: 18 Apr 2025 11:52 am Burly has been taking some deserved heat for poor production at DH. But aren't RF and 1B production just as vital?
This thread was a pretext for your Burleson, now shifting toward Saggese, obsession. I'm all for Saggese taking Burleson's ABs.
And maybe some of the slumping Contreras' ABs. In addition to, possibly, DH. Wonder if Saggese could be OK at 1B, defensively, occasionally.
no...you've been told, you even wanted to compare him to Steve Garvey b/c of his short stature. The answer was no then, and it's no now.

And no to your Saggese is the next Steve Garvey of LF. Those threads still exist on TCN if we need to bump them. :roll:

But I'll still defend you, when others call you a "Moron"... :wink: