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Donovan

Posted: 08 Apr 2025 22:47 pm
by bccardsfan
It has been fun watching VS2 get off to great start, but Donnie's very quietly had a killer start to the season. Holy cow! Only K'd 4 times in 43 ABs and .395 BA with 10 RBIs. He doesn't hit many dingers, but he has been driving in runs. Of course he and VS2 are going to come down to earth, but Donnie's sure a big piece of this team. Hope he stays healthy. Always liked the guy, but geez, what a good start.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 08 Apr 2025 23:00 pm
by Ozziesfan41
bccardsfan wrote: 08 Apr 2025 22:47 pm It has been fun watching VS2 get off to great start, but Donnie's very quietly had a killer start to the season. Holy cow! Only K'd 4 times in 43 ABs and .395 BA with 10 RBIs. He doesn't hit many dingers, but he has been driving in runs. Of course he and VS2 are going to come down to earth, but Donnie's sure a big piece of this team. Hope he stays healthy. Always liked the guy, but geez, what a good start.
I would prefer Donovan and Scott than Edman and his .235 .245 OBP

Re: Donovan

Posted: 08 Apr 2025 23:37 pm
by bccardsfan
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 08 Apr 2025 23:00 pm
bccardsfan wrote: 08 Apr 2025 22:47 pm It has been fun watching VS2 get off to great start, but Donnie's very quietly had a killer start to the season. Holy cow! Only K'd 4 times in 43 ABs and .395 BA with 10 RBIs. He doesn't hit many dingers, but he has been driving in runs. Of course he and VS2 are going to come down to earth, but Donnie's sure a big piece of this team. Hope he stays healthy. Always liked the guy, but geez, what a good start.
I would prefer Donovan and Scott than Edman and his .235 .245 OBP
Indeed. Edman is a better defender, but Donovan is more than adequate at several positions and is the better hitter. Yes, I know he won a GG as a utility guy, but Edman is the better infielder. If they only could keep one I would have picked Donnie as well. If this team had decent pitching they would be OK. Maybe they will DFA Mikolas and one of the kids will step up. A couple of decent BP pieces would help too....

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 03:31 am
by fullswing
He has only struck out four times all season.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 06:47 am
by bfib
He has hit well, but man has he made some absolute boneheaded plays.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 07:12 am
by Basil Shabazz
A glue guy that you don't consider getting rid of until(when & if) he prices himself out of town. He is locked in through 2028 and will be 31 going on 32 at that time.

Unselfish player that you can write in for 110+ OPS+, 2+ WAR, .350+ OBP every year.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am
by An Old Friend
It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 08:42 am
by ecleme22
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
Why?

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 08:45 am
by rockondlouie
17 hits for Donny, 3rd highest in MLB!

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 08:53 am
by scoutyjones2
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
No. No need at this point. Both have concerns about health. It's 11 [fork]ing games.

Every year, players can get hot for 60 days and then turn into pumpkins

Noots 1 for 14 his last 3 games. Hurdys been on a run but started slow. :roll:

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 09:01 am
by An Old Friend
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:42 am
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
Why?
Just so I'm clear on what you're asking... you're asking why teams should consider signing their good young players to longer deals to retain them past their arbitration years?

And if that IS your question, I'd ask you why you're against that... and especially considering we know that ownership is resetting the payroll baseline to a lower number.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 09:05 am
by An Old Friend
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:53 am
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
No. No need at this point. Both have concerns about health. It's 11 [fork]ing games.

Every year, players can get hot for 60 days and then turn into pumpkins

Noots 1 for 14 his last 3 games. Hurdys been on a run but started slow. :roll:
At this point? Dude, they're already late.

The Cardinals have ZERO young players signed through their arbitration years. Knowing their stated payroll strategy, how on earth could you suggest they shouldn't lock up players they've developed longer term before they get close to free agency?

It's not about 3 games. Way to miss the point... can't tell if it was intentional or not, feels like it wasn't based on your extremely short-sighted defense of your position.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 09:06 am
by bccardsfan
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:53 am
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
No. No need at this point. Both have concerns about health. It's 11 [fork]ing games.

Every year, players can get hot for 60 days and then turn into pumpkins

Noots 1 for 14 his last 3 games. Hurdys been on a run but started slow. :roll:
I agree. No need to sign Donovan early. Just that he is off to a good start. He will end up around .280 and if we are lucky his OPS will be in the 800's. He is certainly not going to maintain an OPS north of 1.000 where he is now. Depending on his slot in the order, he will knock in 70-80 runs and play good D wherever he is needed. He is not Pujols.....but a good guy to have in the lineup and off to a great start.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 09:07 am
by scoutyjones2
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 09:05 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:53 am
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
No. No need at this point. Both have concerns about health. It's 11 [fork]ing games.

Every year, players can get hot for 60 days and then turn into pumpkins

Noots 1 for 14 his last 3 games. Hurdys been on a run but started slow. :roll:
At this point? Dude, they're already late.

The Cardinals have ZERO young players signed through their arbitration years. Knowing their stated payroll strategy, how on earth could you suggest they shouldn't lock up players they've developed longer term before they get close to free agency?

It's not about 3 games. Way to miss the point... can't tell if it was intentional or not, feels like it wasn't based on your extremely short-sighted defense of your position.
What part of, no need and injury concerns escape you.

Cards have prospects like Saggese and Wetherholt to replace Hurdy.

Premature to sign either...probably that way in other parts of your life

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 09:28 am
by thetank2
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
Oh please. No Pujols here.

Re: Donovan

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 10:19 am
by An Old Friend
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 09:07 am
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 09:05 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:53 am
An Old Friend wrote: 09 Apr 2025 08:24 am It's really an example of poor front office principles that they don't have Donovan and Nootbaar signed longer term.
No. No need at this point. Both have concerns about health. It's 11 [fork]ing games.

Every year, players can get hot for 60 days and then turn into pumpkins

Noots 1 for 14 his last 3 games. Hurdys been on a run but started slow. :roll:
At this point? Dude, they're already late.

The Cardinals have ZERO young players signed through their arbitration years. Knowing their stated payroll strategy, how on earth could you suggest they shouldn't lock up players they've developed longer term before they get close to free agency?

It's not about 3 games. Way to miss the point... can't tell if it was intentional or not, feels like it wasn't based on your extremely short-sighted defense of your position.
What part of, no need and injury concerns escape you.

Cards have prospects like Saggese and Wetherholt to replace Hurdy.

Premature to sign either...probably that way in other parts of your life
Dude, you’re still missing the point.

Donovan should’ve been signed to a longer deal 1-2 years ago.

I don’t know of any injury concerns with him. What are they? Also don’t know the “Hurdy” reference.