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What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:23 pm
by Shady
The organization keeps playing Wetherholt at SS. Isn't Winn pretty well assured to be the long range SS? Considering that both Winn and Wetherholt will likely be in the Cardinals' future lineup. Why not start to groom Wetherholt at 2B or 3B ?

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:36 pm
by Melville
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:23 pm The organization keeps playing Wetherholt at SS. Isn't Winn pretty well assured to be the long range SS? Considering that both Winn and Wetherholt will likely be in the Cardinals' future lineup. Why not start to groom Wetherholt at 2B or 3B ?
It is good for Winn to see Wetherholt over his shoulder.
And it is good for STL to have depth at the position.
Zero downside in the current approach.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:38 pm
by Shady
Melville wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:36 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:23 pm The organization keeps playing Wetherholt at SS. Isn't Winn pretty well assured to be the long range SS? Considering that both Winn and Wetherholt will likely be in the Cardinals' future lineup. Why not start to groom Wetherholt at 2B or 3B ?
It is good for Winn to see Wetherholt over his shoulder.
And it is good for STL to have depth at the position.
Zero downside in the current approach.
Good point. However, it seems prudent for the Cardinals to prepare Wetherholt at another position if they plan to have both in the lineup.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:42 pm
by 11WSChamps
If he excels at short he enhances his value if his offense reaches its potential.

He can always be moved to 2nd or 3rd.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:42 pm
by Melville
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:38 pm
Melville wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:36 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:23 pm The organization keeps playing Wetherholt at SS. Isn't Winn pretty well assured to be the long range SS? Considering that both Winn and Wetherholt will likely be in the Cardinals' future lineup. Why not start to groom Wetherholt at 2B or 3B ?
It is good for Winn to see Wetherholt over his shoulder.
And it is good for STL to have depth at the position.
Zero downside in the current approach.
Good point. However, it seems prudent for the Cardinals to prepare Wetherholt at another position if they plan to have both in the lineup.
Respectfully disagree.
Both have far higher value at the SS position than anywhere else on the field.
That is too great of a strategic advantage to give up on.
Never intentionally diminish the value of any asset.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:43 pm
by vegascardsfan5890
Maybe Winn becomes trade bait? Could get a nice SP for him

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:48 pm
by Shady
Melville wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:42 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:38 pm
Melville wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:36 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:23 pm The organization keeps playing Wetherholt at SS. Isn't Winn pretty well assured to be the long range SS? Considering that both Winn and Wetherholt will likely be in the Cardinals' future lineup. Why not start to groom Wetherholt at 2B or 3B ?
It is good for Winn to see Wetherholt over his shoulder.
And it is good for STL to have depth at the position.
Zero downside in the current approach.
Good point. However, it seems prudent for the Cardinals to prepare Wetherholt at another position if they plan to have both in the lineup.
Respectfully disagree.
Both have far higher value at the SS position than anywhere else on the field.
That is too great of a strategic advantage to give up on.
Never intentionally diminish the value of any asset.
Melville, what is Saggese's future position ? From what I've seen and read, Saggese has very good upside as a MLB hitter. There are only so many infield positions to go around. Considering Donovan, Winn, Gorman, Wetherholt and Saggese.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:52 pm
by craviduce
this is the 4th or 5th Shady post on Wetherholt and SS position

everyone keeps telling him the same thing, he refuses to listen.

please don't feed him

:roll:

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
yes, he will play a position

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:54 pm
by 11WSChamps
With the lack of RH bats at the ready I see Sagesse as a possibility swing Of-INF swing man like Donovan.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 17:05 pm
by NYCardsFan
craviduce wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:52 pm this is the 4th or 5th Shady post on Wetherholt and SS position

everyone keeps telling him the same thing, he refuses to listen.

please don't feed him

:roll:
Yes, he’s even done this exact same thread topic previously: viewtopic.php?t=1509428&hilit=Wetherholt

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 17:11 pm
by Shady
craviduce wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:52 pm this is the 4th or 5th Shady post on Wetherholt and SS position

everyone keeps telling him the same thing, he refuses to listen.

please don't feed him

:roll:
Big-timer, please let up on the immature behavior.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 17:15 pm
by ramfandan
Often in early minor league career teams prefer to play a slick infielder at SS as he gets a ton more ground balls than a 2nd baseman. Thus JJ get more fielding chances plus to work on his range.

They want him ti get the most defensive action of all the infielders.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 17:25 pm
by Mort Gage
Shady wrote: 05 Apr 2025 17:11 pm
craviduce wrote: 05 Apr 2025 16:52 pm this is the 4th or 5th Shady post on Wetherholt and SS position

everyone keeps telling him the same thing, he refuses to listen.

please don't feed him

:roll:
Big-timer, please let up on the immature behavior.
Physician, heal thyself

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 17:34 pm
by Mort Gage
ramfandan wrote: 05 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Often in early minor league career teams prefer to play a slick infielder at SS as he gets a ton more ground balls than a 2nd baseman. Thus JJ get more fielding chances plus to work on his range.

They want him ti get the most defensive action of all the infielders.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Similarly strong OF prospects may be placed at CF in the minors even though the longer term projection is corner OF.

Re: What is the position plan for Wetherholt?

Posted: 05 Apr 2025 17:42 pm
by ramfandan
Mort Gage wrote: 05 Apr 2025 17:34 pm
ramfandan wrote: 05 Apr 2025 17:15 pm Often in early minor league career teams prefer to play a slick infielder at SS as he gets a ton more ground balls than a 2nd baseman. Thus JJ get more fielding chances plus to work on his range.

They want him ti get the most defensive action of all the infielders.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Similarly strong OF prospects may be placed at CF in the minors even though the longer term projection is corner OF.
Ding ding ! Another winner regarding outfielders in CF to start