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Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

Pretty much every closer pitches in that situation across the league. Jansen also pitched the 9th in a tie game for the Angels tonight as well.

You can tell he's already in mid-season form.

You are correct Melville

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

The Angels using Jansen in the 9th was stupider IMO.

Every manager in baseball uses their closer in the 9th in a tie game when they are the home team. If that's an Oli blunder, then that's an every manager blunder.

Helsley faced 2/3/4 in the ninth tonight!
If someone ELSE comes in and blows it you’d be here asking WHY they SAVED their best???
Please go away you babbling narcissistic imbecile!

Kind of a catch 22.

You have to get to the 10th inning first.

If you don't use your best (if available) in the 9th and get beat then people will question that move.

I can see both sides of it but you have to play the inning you're in first.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 22:01 pm

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

The Angels using Jansen in the 9th was stupider IMO.

Every manager in baseball uses their closer in the 9th in a tie game when they are the home team. If that's an Oli blunder, then that's an every manager blunder.

Thank you!!!!!!
What will it take to get this total loser off the forum???? LOL

brock118 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:59 pm

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

Pretty much every closer pitches in that situation across the league. Jansen also pitched the 9th in a tie game for the Angels tonight as well.

Road game for the Angels.
Home game for the Cardinals.
Huge difference.
The rule - as much as I detest it - gives the home team a solid extra inning advantage.
Foolish not to take advantage of that by saving Helsley for the 10th.
Again, the facts speak for themselves.
Not a coincidence that The Marmot's decision backfired two nights in a row.

Melville said this both nights as it happened. And he proved to be right.

swatski wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 22:00 pm You are correct Melville

Pretty obvious, isn't it?

I understand needing the best in the 9th tonight. But in extra innings, you HAVE to get some strikeouts. And we don't have anyone other than Hels that can consistently do that right now.

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 22:04 pm

brock118 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:59 pm

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

Pretty much every closer pitches in that situation across the league. Jansen also pitched the 9th in a tie game for the Angels tonight as well.

Road game for the Angels.
Hoem game for the Cardinals.
Huge difference.
The rule - as much as I detest it, gives the home team a solid extra inning advantage.
Foolish not to take advantage of that by saving Helsley for the 10th.
Again, the facts speak for themselves.
Not a coincidence that The Marmot's decision backfired two nights in a row.

LMFAO
You are a complete fraud and a babbling narcissist!

I guess the idea is to have two studs on the high leverage side instead of one.

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 22:04 pm

brock118 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:59 pm

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

Pretty much every closer pitches in that situation across the league. Jansen also pitched the 9th in a tie game for the Angels tonight as well.

Road game for the Angels.
Home game for the Cardinals.
Huge difference.
The rule - as much as I detest it - gives the home team a solid extra inning advantage.
Foolish not to take advantage of that by saving Helsley for the 10th.
Again, the facts speak for themselves.
Not a coincidence that The Marmot's decision backfired two nights in a row.

His problem is that he can’t have Helsley and Maton pitch every inning of relief. At some point you have to use the other guys and Fernandez was one of our best relievers last year. This year, he hasn’t had it so far.

But every team in baseball would use Helsley in the 9th inning. I can’t believe they haven’t asked you to be manager yet.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 22:09 pm

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 22:04 pm

brock118 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:59 pm

Melville wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025 21:57 pm Using Helsley in the 9th inning of a tie game at home is utter stupidity.
I said it last night.
I'm saying it again tonight.
Makes zero sense strategically to use your best strikeout pitcher in the 9th when you know that if there is a 10th inning the opposition with start with a runner in scoring position - which is when the strikeouts will be needed.
It is one thing to make such a silly mistake.
It is quite another to repeat it the very next game.
The Marmot just isn't very bright.

Pretty much every closer pitches in that situation across the league. Jansen also pitched the 9th in a tie game for the Angels tonight as well.

Road game for the Angels.
Home game for the Cardinals.
Huge difference.
The rule - as much as I detest it - gives the home team a solid extra inning advantage.
Foolish not to take advantage of that by saving Helsley for the 10th.
Again, the facts speak for themselves.
Not a coincidence that The Marmot's decision backfired two nights in a row.

His problem is that he can’t have Helsley and Maton pitch every inning of relief. At some point you have to use the other guys and Fernandez was one of our best relievers last year. This year, he hasn’t had it so far.

But every team in baseball would use Helsley in the 9th inning. I can’t believe they haven’t asked you to be manager yet.

Fernandez was a rule 5 pickup who had a decent season. First off, that's not much pedigree to rely on, 2nd, 90% of relievers are like spinning at roulette wheel season to season. Marmol will never understand that. This is guy that has literally said about 160 times now after a loss...

"We just couldn't get that big hit when we needed it."

And yet in those 160 times he NEVER tries anything different! Sure as F not gonna try and do something out of the box when it comes to relievers.