Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
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Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
Sorry, I don't believe any team hit the eggnog hard enough to offer Pete 3/$90M. Looking around the web the only mention is by less than credible sites--SI, NY Post, Sportskeeda for christsakes.
otoh if the offer is solid he should grab it.
otoh if the offer is solid he should grab it.
Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
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Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
I've been trying to say this!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 07:51 amYeah, he should take that.
He plays 1B, which limits his overall value. The last two years he's only managed 2.8 and 2.1 fWAR, so a $30 million AAV is pretty (drat) generous.
From October:
An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024 21:16 pm I don’t think Alonso should get anything over 3 yrs $75MM, and I think that would be an overpay
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Yea, I wouldn’t say a short term slightly higher AAV deal like that is necessarily crazy for a player that has 3 40+ HR seasons and has had 60+ XBH in all 5 full seasons he’s played in.Swuhgen wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:03 amYou act like it's some absurd offer. For three years that's a good deal.12xu wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:41 amOf course, if any owner would offer Alonso 30 MM per season, it would be Cohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:30 amI can't find this so-called "offer" anywhere.
But if it were to become true, then I agree w/you 100% he should sign that immediately.
There is something to durability and if the Mets added Alonso, they would have 3 of the most durable players in baseball. Over the last 3 seasons Juan Soto is 4th in PA (6th in games), Lindor is 5th (5th in games), and Alonso is 9th (3rd in games).
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Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
Yeah, Bellinger signed last year for 3 yrs./$80 million, at age 28, coming off a 4.4 fWAR 2023, and he wasn't nailed to having to play 1B. Alonso's career has maybe been more consistent than Bellinger's, but are you offering Alonso more than Bellinger's contract?An Old Friend wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:11 amI've been trying to say this!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 07:51 amYeah, he should take that.
He plays 1B, which limits his overall value. The last two years he's only managed 2.8 and 2.1 fWAR, so a $30 million AAV is pretty (drat) generous.
From October:An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024 21:16 pm I don’t think Alonso should get anything over 3 yrs $75MM, and I think that would be an overpay
Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
Alonso clearly is far ahead of Bellinger in consistency and durability. Alonso is coming off his worst year of his career. Bellinger was coming off his 2nd best fWAR of his career and first remotely decent year in the last four years. Not to mention that Bellinger’s statcast numbers are not good compared to Alonso.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:29 amYeah, Bellinger signed last year for 3 yrs./$80 million, at age 28, coming off a 4.4 fWAR 2023, and he wasn't nailed to having to play 1B. Alonso's career has maybe been more consistent than Bellinger's, but are you offering Alonso more than Bellinger's contract?An Old Friend wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:11 amI've been trying to say this!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 07:51 amYeah, he should take that.
He plays 1B, which limits his overall value. The last two years he's only managed 2.8 and 2.1 fWAR, so a $30 million AAV is pretty (drat) generous.
From October:An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024 21:16 pm I don’t think Alonso should get anything over 3 yrs $75MM, and I think that would be an overpay
Bellinger’s xSLG (hard hit%) over the last 4 years:
2021: .358 (34.4%)
2022: .354 (38.1%)
2023: .434 (31.4%)
2024: .400 (32.4%)
If Bellinger is making that, then Alonso should get at least $90 million over 3 years IMO.
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Well... I'm not.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:29 amYeah, Bellinger signed last year for 3 yrs./$80 million, at age 28, coming off a 4.4 fWAR 2023, and he wasn't nailed to having to play 1B. Alonso's career has maybe been more consistent than Bellinger's, but are you offering Alonso more than Bellinger's contract?An Old Friend wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:11 amI've been trying to say this!mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 07:51 amYeah, he should take that.
He plays 1B, which limits his overall value. The last two years he's only managed 2.8 and 2.1 fWAR, so a $30 million AAV is pretty (drat) generous.
From October:An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024 21:16 pm I don’t think Alonso should get anything over 3 yrs $75MM, and I think that would be an overpay
I see something interesting in his last 4 years:
2021-2022: .267/.348/.518 - .866 OPS / 140 OPS+
2023-2024: .229/.324/.480 - .804 OPS / 123 OPS+
The first player is worth a lot even with defensive deficiencies. The second player is not. It looks like he made one fundamental change after 2022 that doesn't make any sense... he started swinging a lot less at pitches in the zone.
2021-2022: he swung at about 70% of pitches in the strike zone
2023-2024: he swung at about 61% of pitches in the strike zone (2024 was his career low at 59.8%)
His over selectivity in the zone has driven his strikeout rate up and his production down. He's not swinging and missing more. He has cost himself a lot of money by swinging less. That seems easily correctable, I just wonder why this has happened and why it hasn't been addressed.
So, I think he could EASILY get back to his peak production for a few years if he'd just swing more. I could justify the spend leaning on optimism that he'd engage in that approach.
Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
It's no act. It may not be "absurd", but it is way more than just a good deal.Swuhgen wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 09:03 amYou act like it's some absurd offer. For three years that's a good deal.12xu wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:41 amOf course, if any owner would offer Alonso 30 MM per season, it would be Cohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:30 amI can't find this so-called "offer" anywhere.
But if it were to become true, then I agree w/you 100% he should sign that immediately.
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Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
No doubt, he can blow any ownership other than the Guggenheim Partners (Dodgers) out of the water.12xu wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:41 amOf course, if any owner would offer Alonso 30 MM per season, it would be Cohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:30 amI can't find this so-called "offer" anywhere.
But if it were to become true, then I agree w/you 100% he should sign that immediately.
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Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
Cohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 11:06 amNo doubt, he can blow any ownership other than the Guggenheim Partners (Dodgers) out of the water.12xu wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:41 amOf course, if any owner would offer Alonso 30 MM per season, it would be Cohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:30 amI can't find this so-called "offer" anywhere.
But if it were to become true, then I agree w/you 100% he should sign that immediately.
He is big enough to be more than an ankle biter. I’d say more like a pain in the butt.
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Re: Mets offer Pete Alonso a 3-year, $90M deal
I wish he owned the Cardinals instead of the Mets.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 11:08 amCohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 11:06 amNo doubt, he can blow any ownership other than the Guggenheim Partners (Dodgers) out of the water.12xu wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:41 amOf course, if any owner would offer Alonso 30 MM per season, it would be Cohen.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024 08:30 amI can't find this so-called "offer" anywhere.
But if it were to become true, then I agree w/you 100% he should sign that immediately.
He is big enough to be more than an ankle biter. I’d say more like a pain in the butt.
Our cheap a z z owner will never sign a premium free agent.
Instead he's going all "Pirates" on us, seeking to drop the payroll as close to $100M as he can.
