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Roughly 24ish runs given up in the last 3 games? Starters are starting to show what type of staff we have. The 2nd half of this season will most likely be rough.

cbcloud wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:28 pm

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:17 pm

cbcloud wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:08 pm ...Cubs' Busch on base on error by Pozo. Crazy bounce in front of HP, and dropped bat by Busch on his way to 1B looked very close to the ball. What would the call have been if the bat HAD hit the ball when the bat was dropped..?

Not sure of the official rule but I think the batter would be called out, could also be a dead ball. Probably a discretionary call by the umpire.

...Thanks for your answer. I can't think of any better call on a play like that either. That particular play raises several interesting possibilities/hypotheticals... What if the catcher makes contact with the bat in fair territory while fielding the ball, or, makes contact with the batter on his way to 1B...?

BTW play call was changed to hit by Busch and not an error by Pozo...

Good, I thought that was the wrong call, glad to see it changed.

If the catcher makes contact with the batter in fair territory I would think it would be interference and the runner would be awarded first base.

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:38 pm Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone but, if Fedde is your number 2 you need some starting pitching. He's average at best. I'm personally not a fan but he is who we have and that will not change this year. Cards aren't spending anytime soon, on any players. Position players or starters demanding any salary. Get used to what you see and just hope this team over performs..

Fedde starting the season as your #2 is yet another example of Mo's incompetence forming a roster.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:46 pm

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:38 pm Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone but, if Fedde is your number 2 you need some starting pitching. He's average at best. I'm personally not a fan but he is who we have and that will not change this year. Cards aren't spending anytime soon, on any players. Position players or starters demanding any salary. Get used to what you see and just hope this team over performs..

Fedde starting the season as your #2 is yet another example of Mo's incompetence forming a roster.

Just like Mikolas. Asian ball with good success and first year success back in the majors but teams figure them out. Miles extension was an awful decision, hell, the dude is in a contract year and still is average. Another low hanging fruit sign. I just pray that they don't extend Fedde. I'm not sure the reset should be for the players? Just step away MO!!!!!

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:16 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:08 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:00 pm

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 19:48 pm Just leave Fedde out there til his arm falls off.

Fedde sucks…..I’m not sure I’ve actually watched him throw for several innings before tonight…..but ain’t got nothing. What’s the point of throwing him out there. Not a young arm better than this (bleep)??

You are insane. Fedde came into the game with a 3.54 ERA and after getting lit up has just a 4.11 ERA. I’ll bet you were mute when he threw the complete game shut out or were you saying he sucked then? I don’t understand how people that are reactionary about every start or at bat can be a baseball fan when there’s 162 games. I guess in order for you to think a pitcher is decent they have to go 32-0 with 32 shutouts. You were also brilliantly saying Libby wasn’t a starter he was a reliever lol

What is he 3-6?? Saw him get lit in Boston and tonight……as I’ve said I haven’t really seen him pitch much or paid attention to his stuff. I assume he attempts to trick and hope for the best…..I didn’t see one pitch you’d call an out pitch….just junk all low 90’s or less

Have you never seen a baseball game before? Pitchers when they have bad games don’t look sharp lol if they were sharp it wouldn’t be a bad game. And no wonder you hyperventilate over a bad start since you’ve only seen him pitch twice. He had a 3.54 ERA coming into today’s game so guess what genius that means he’s been pitching pretty decently. And you were losing your mind over Libby being a starter because you said he’s only a reliever lol

Just got home.....oooops!
Bounce back and win a close one tomorrow!
3 of 4 would be sweet.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:54 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:16 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:08 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:00 pm

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 19:48 pm Just leave Fedde out there til his arm falls off.

Fedde sucks…..I’m not sure I’ve actually watched him throw for several innings before tonight…..but ain’t got nothing. What’s the point of throwing him out there. Not a young arm better than this (bleep)??

You are insane. Fedde came into the game with a 3.54 ERA and after getting lit up has just a 4.11 ERA. I’ll bet you were mute when he threw the complete game shut out or were you saying he sucked then? I don’t understand how people that are reactionary about every start or at bat can be a baseball fan when there’s 162 games. I guess in order for you to think a pitcher is decent they have to go 32-0 with 32 shutouts. You were also brilliantly saying Libby wasn’t a starter he was a reliever lol

What is he 3-6?? Saw him get lit in Boston and tonight……as I’ve said I haven’t really seen him pitch much or paid attention to his stuff. I assume he attempts to trick and hope for the best…..I didn’t see one pitch you’d call an out pitch….just junk all low 90’s or less

Have you never seen a baseball game before? Pitchers when they have bad games don’t look sharp lol if they were sharp it wouldn’t be a bad game. And no wonder you hyperventilate over a bad start since you’ve only seen him pitch twice. He had a 3.54 ERA coming into today’s game so guess what genius that means he’s been pitching pretty decently

Nice try with injecting LOGIC into your dialogue.

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:41 pm

cbcloud wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:28 pm

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:17 pm

cbcloud wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:08 pm ...Cubs' Busch on base on error by Pozo. Crazy bounce in front of HP, and dropped bat by Busch on his way to 1B looked very close to the ball. What would the call have been if the bat HAD hit the ball when the bat was dropped..?

Not sure of the official rule but I think the batter would be called out, could also be a dead ball. Probably a discretionary call by the umpire.

...Thanks for your answer. I can't think of any better call on a play like that either. That particular play raises several interesting possibilities/hypotheticals... What if the catcher makes contact with the bat in fair territory while fielding the ball, or, makes contact with the batter on his way to 1B...?

BTW play call was changed to hit by Busch and not an error by Pozo...

Good, I thought that was the wrong call, glad to see it changed.

If the catcher makes contact with the batter in fair territory I would think it would be interference and the runner would be awarded first base.

I tried to get an answer from AI CoPilot and it is a judgement call, depending on catcher/batter intent... Here is the CoPilot answer...
"In MLB, when a catcher and runner collide while fielding a bunt in fair territory, the ruling hinges on who has the right of way—and that’s usually the fielder, if they’re actively making a play on the ball.
According to MLB Rule 6.01(a)(10) and related interpretations:
- If the catcher is fielding the ball and the runner impedes that attempt, it’s typically ruled offensive interference. The runner is out, the ball is dead, and other runners return to their last legally touched base.
- If the collision is incidental and neither player is clearly at fault, umpires may let play continue.
- However, if the fielder is not actively making a play and blocks the runner’s path, it could be obstruction, and the runner may be awarded a base.
The fielder is considered “protected” only while making a legitimate play on the ball. Once that opportunity passes, they lose that protection."

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:54 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:16 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:08 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:00 pm

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 19:48 pm Just leave Fedde out there til his arm falls off.

Fedde sucks…..I’m not sure I’ve actually watched him throw for several innings before tonight…..but ain’t got nothing. What’s the point of throwing him out there. Not a young arm better than this (bleep)??

You are insane. Fedde came into the game with a 3.54 ERA and after getting lit up has just a 4.11 ERA. I’ll bet you were mute when he threw the complete game shut out or were you saying he sucked then? I don’t understand how people that are reactionary about every start or at bat can be a baseball fan when there’s 162 games. I guess in order for you to think a pitcher is decent they have to go 32-0 with 32 shutouts. You were also brilliantly saying Libby wasn’t a starter he was a reliever lol

What is he 3-6?? Saw him get lit in Boston and tonight……as I’ve said I haven’t really seen him pitch much or paid attention to his stuff. I assume he attempts to trick and hope for the best…..I didn’t see one pitch you’d call an out pitch….just junk all low 90’s or less

Have you never seen a baseball game before? Pitchers when they have bad games don’t look sharp lol if they were sharp it wouldn’t be a bad game. And no wonder you hyperventilate over a bad start since you’ve only seen him pitch twice. He had a 3.54 ERA coming into today’s game so guess what genius that means he’s been pitching pretty decently. And you were losing your mind over Libby being a starter because you said he’s only a reliever lol

I get ya but Fedde just isn't a number 2 caliber guy. He's just average at best. If this team wants to win, they need to draft well but also aquire free agent signings. Dumwitt needs to spend SOME money on some acquisitions through trade as well. This team does not need a POBO or a GM if they can't spend some cash to upgrade this barely above average roster.

Fun ending to a horrible game. The team ERA just went down!

Can’t remember precisely but saw Fedde with ChiSox or Royals for few starts. He actually was pretty good. Was hsppy Cards got him. Saw him stink it up against BoSox and now tonight.

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 21:00 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:54 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:16 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:08 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:00 pm

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 19:48 pm Just leave Fedde out there til his arm falls off.

Fedde sucks…..I’m not sure I’ve actually watched him throw for several innings before tonight…..but ain’t got nothing. What’s the point of throwing him out there. Not a young arm better than this (bleep)??

You are insane. Fedde came into the game with a 3.54 ERA and after getting lit up has just a 4.11 ERA. I’ll bet you were mute when he threw the complete game shut out or were you saying he sucked then? I don’t understand how people that are reactionary about every start or at bat can be a baseball fan when there’s 162 games. I guess in order for you to think a pitcher is decent they have to go 32-0 with 32 shutouts. You were also brilliantly saying Libby wasn’t a starter he was a reliever lol

What is he 3-6?? Saw him get lit in Boston and tonight……as I’ve said I haven’t really seen him pitch much or paid attention to his stuff. I assume he attempts to trick and hope for the best…..I didn’t see one pitch you’d call an out pitch….just junk all low 90’s or less

Have you never seen a baseball game before? Pitchers when they have bad games don’t look sharp lol if they were sharp it wouldn’t be a bad game. And no wonder you hyperventilate over a bad start since you’ve only seen him pitch twice. He had a 3.54 ERA coming into today’s game so guess what genius that means he’s been pitching pretty decently. And you were losing your mind over Libby being a starter because you said he’s only a reliever lol

I get ya but Fedde just isn't a number 2 caliber guy. He's just average at best. If this team wants to win, they need to draft well but also aquire free agent signings. Dumwitt needs to spend SOME money on some acquisitions through trade as well. This team does not need a POBO or a GM if they can't spend some cash to upgrade this barely above average roster.

Never said he was a 2 starter but people peeing in their pants and calling a pitcher garbage who came into the game with a 3.54 ERA in 15 starts are dumb. And he was one of the genius scouts who was crying about them putting Libby in the rotation because he was adamant that he is only a reliever and had proven he was only a reliever lol

Eyelids64 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 21:08 pm Can’t remember precisely but saw Fedde with ChiSox or Royals for few starts. He actually was pretty good. Was hsppy Cards got him. Saw him stink it up against BoSox and now tonight.

He is who he is. Average at best.

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 21:05 pm Fun ending to a horrible game. The team ERA just went down!

So, this was Mo's super-secret, early bullpen addition. Mebbe he is the smartest guy in the dumpster.

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:51 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:46 pm

slimjay63801 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025 20:38 pm Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone but, if Fedde is your number 2 you need some starting pitching. He's average at best. I'm personally not a fan but he is who we have and that will not change this year. Cards aren't spending anytime soon, on any players. Position players or starters demanding any salary. Get used to what you see and just hope this team over performs..

Fedde starting the season as your #2 is yet another example of Mo's incompetence forming a roster.

Just like Mikolas. Asian ball with good success and first year success back in the majors but teams figure them out. Miles extension was an awful decision, hell, the dude is in a contract year and still is average. Another low hanging fruit sign. I just pray that they don't extend Fedde. I'm not sure the reset should be for the players? Just step away MO!!!!!

They're not going to extend Fedde.

He and Matz will be dealt at the deadline.

Thank god we won the first two, go get em tomorrow!