Shots fired at Army (figuratively)

[Aesa]

Best player of the playoffs.

Post his numbers the first half where he was awful and carried.

Laughing

What does it matter? He came on hard the second half and LED the Blues to the Cup while garnering several individual awards including the Conn-Smythe.

I know your feelings are hurt that your boy didn't do that.

Laughing even more.

Petro scored the only cup winning goal in Blues history.

He also screened Binnington to [fork] up his shutout thus giving himself the cup winning goal . Every one of you Petro worshipers seem to forget that little fact.


And to be clear, I think Petro was a very good defenseman. I have zero dislike for him.

[theograce]

He also screened Binnington to [fork] up his shutout thus giving himself the cup winning goal .

No wonder you get timed out

Laughing

[Aesa]

He also screened Binnington to [fork] up his shutout thus giving himself the cup winning goal .

No wonder you get timed out

Laughing

[theograce]

The leading shot blocker for the STL Blues during their cup run was trying to block a shot that went bar down and some dingus is talking about that.

Hahahaha

[callitwhatyouwant]

Legend ROR started the cup campaign with 20 points thru the first 14 games.

The spark that kept the Blues thru dark times.

Legend.

[Old_Goat]

I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.

We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.

Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.

But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.

Excellent post that should not be denied.

What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias

At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.

You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.

But they don’t understand leadership lol

No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths.

Like who? Quote them. Post some links. Do you even understand what hearsay means lol

At the end of the day the best collection of players assembled … maybe ever … and Pietrangelo was named to lead that team with McDavid and Crosby. You’ll be in your grave before it happens again…maybe your kids too.

Now why would Team Canada do that? Explain

Leave my kids out of it.
When are you coming to St. Louis next? Let's meet.

[retirednot]

Love you insight, Old Goat. Spot on, as usual.

[theograce]

I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.

We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.

Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.

But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.

Excellent post that should not be denied.

What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias

At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.

You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.

But they don’t understand leadership lol

No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths.

Like who? Quote them. Post some links. Do you even understand what hearsay means lol

At the end of the day the best collection of players assembled … maybe ever … and Pietrangelo was named to lead that team with McDavid and Crosby. You’ll be in your grave before it happens again…maybe your kids too.

Now why would Team Canada do that? Explain

Leave my kids out of it.
When are you coming to St. Louis next? Let's meet.

Having nothing to backup what you said makes you want to fight? That’s pretty cowardly and deflective. I mean you already knew you had nothing to support.

[Bubble4427]

I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.

We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.

Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.

But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.

Excellent post that should not be denied.

What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias

At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.

You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.

But they don’t understand leadership lol

No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths.

Like who? Quote them. Post some links. Do you even understand what hearsay means lol

At the end of the day the best collection of players assembled … maybe ever … and Pietrangelo was named to lead that team with McDavid and Crosby. You’ll be in your grave before it happens again…maybe your kids too.

Now why would Team Canada do that? Explain

Leave my kids out of it.
When are you coming to St. Louis next? Let's meet.

Having nothing to backup what you said makes you want to fight? That’s pretty cowardly and deflective. I mean you already knew you had nothing to support.

Hyperbole makes people seem desperate. No where will you find an article saying that team was even in the top 3 ever.
Making things up and lying is the easiest show of desperation on the forum.

Just google it
“ The 1987 Team Canada is widely considered the best Canada Cup team ever, defined by its star-studded roster with 12 future Hall of Famers—including Gretzky and Lemieux—and a thrilling final series against the Soviet Union. Other top squads include the undefeated 1976 team and the 1991, 1984, and 1976 champions. ”

“ This Canadian team was an interesting blend of pure offensive skill, as reflected by a young Lemieux and a cadre of Edmonton Oilers stars led by Gretzky and future Hall of Famers Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffey and Mark Messier; and good old-fashioned Canadian grit and scrappiness as illustrated by the presence of players such as Rick Tocchet, Kevin Dineen, Brent Sutter, Claude Lemieux and Doug Gilmour.”

On defense…Bourque, Coffey, Patrick, and Larry Murphy in his prime.

I normally don’t bother replying to a post, but I just sometimes feel the need to educate the stupid….

[theograce]

I normally don’t bother replying to a post, but I just sometimes feel the need to educate the stupid….

Named with Crosby and McDavid (two of the best ever). Two cup winning GM’s saying things like “I’ve never met anyone like him…I truly haven’t” and “I see pietrangelo every time I walk by statues”

Should I believe myself and these men? Or some middle aged man on a message board named bubbles who doesn’t understand the sport?

[steve li]

I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.

We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.

Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.

But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.

Excellent post that should not be denied.

What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias

At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.

You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.

But they don’t understand leadership lol

No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths.

Like who? Quote them. Post some links. Do you even understand what hearsay means lol

At the end of the day the best collection of players assembled … maybe ever … and Pietrangelo was named to lead that team with McDavid and Crosby. You’ll be in your grave before it happens again…maybe your kids too.

Now why would Team Canada do that? Explain

Leave my kids out of it.
When are you coming to St. Louis next? Let's meet.

Having nothing to backup what you said makes you want to fight? That’s pretty cowardly and deflective. I mean you already knew you had nothing to support.

Hyperbole makes people seem desperate. No where will you find an article saying that team was even in the top 3 ever.
Making things up and lying is the easiest show of desperation on the forum.

Just google it
“ The 1987 Team Canada is widely considered the best Canada Cup team ever, defined by its star-studded roster with 12 future Hall of Famers—including Gretzky and Lemieux—and a thrilling final series against the Soviet Union. Other top squads include the undefeated 1976 team and the 1991, 1984, and 1976 champions. ”

“ This Canadian team was an interesting blend of pure offensive skill, as reflected by a young Lemieux and a cadre of Edmonton Oilers stars led by Gretzky and future Hall of Famers Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffey and Mark Messier; and good old-fashioned Canadian grit and scrappiness as illustrated by the presence of players such as Rick Tocchet, Kevin Dineen, Brent Sutter, Claude Lemieux and Doug Gilmour.”

On defense…Bourque, Coffey, Patrick, and Larry Murphy in his prime.

I normally don’t bother replying to a post, but I just sometimes feel the need to educate the stupid….

I re-watched the 87 Finals a few years ago. Man, some pretty great hockey there. You folk that have never seen it search it out.

[Bubble4427]

I'll save anyone the trouble if they're tempted to watch the video - the content is basically if they went to ChatGPT and said "please summarize the contents of Blues Talk".
- shouldn't have let Petro go
- how bad is it that Thomas is on the market?
- must trade Kyrou (because. . . reasons)
If you're tempted to watch it, you can definitely skip it.

We really need some new outrage around here. Here's some: why doesn't anybody blame Army for the biggest blunder ever - trading Lars Eller? Dude could have shored up 2C for 15 years for the Blues. Terrible trade.

Good post. I'm not sure if it was the "biggest" blunder, but it was questionable trade then and yes terrible looking back. I did not like it ever.

But getting back to Pietrangelo: Yes he was a great player for us. He was here and a very important player for us for a long time, and he was Captain of the Stanley Cup winning team...so if he gets a statue that won't bother me. Heck, I wish they put a quite a few more players out there, similar to what the Cardinals have done to honor the history and memories. Of course, because of space restraints only Musial's is bigger, so maybe the Blues ought to start with more smaller ones in that big area near the garage & that side corner entrance?
However, there is another fact that should not interfere with any honors or statues for Pietrangelo beyond his play and contribution: He was not a standout Leader. He as well as Backes were not so much disliked by their teammates, but neither of them did much to draw the team together outside of the rink, after practice or on the road. It's not like they didn't care about them, but they were fairly self-centered in their outside interests, standoffish to a degree. People want to be inspired. Their play helped with doing that for their teammates, but nothing beyond that. Some teammates felt something missing, a little disconnected. In that environment, informal leaders standout...that can be good, or it could be bad. How many times have you had a boss whom was okay, you worked fine together, but it just all wasn't there?
The goal is to get from Good to Great. It's pointless to knock Pietrangelo, but also to ignore the business facts of spending constraints and the whole team costs and big picture.

Excellent post that should not be denied.

What’s excellent about that post? It’s mostly conjecture and opinion on leadership. Tea leaves and bias

At the end of the day and in reality, a team Canada group picked a veteran Pietrangelo to lead Team Canada. He was named with 2 complete legends to lead that team.

You’ll never see another Blues D-man receive that honor before you’re 6 feet under.

But they don’t understand leadership lol

No conjecture and no hearsay...straight from a few of the "horses'" mouths.

Like who? Quote them. Post some links. Do you even understand what hearsay means lol

At the end of the day the best collection of players assembled … maybe ever … and Pietrangelo was named to lead that team with McDavid and Crosby. You’ll be in your grave before it happens again…maybe your kids too.

Now why would Team Canada do that? Explain

Leave my kids out of it.
When are you coming to St. Louis next? Let's meet.

Having nothing to backup what you said makes you want to fight? That’s pretty cowardly and deflective. I mean you already knew you had nothing to support.

Hyperbole makes people seem desperate. No where will you find an article saying that team was even in the top 3 ever.
Making things up and lying is the easiest show of desperation on the forum.

Just google it
“ The 1987 Team Canada is widely considered the best Canada Cup team ever, defined by its star-studded roster with 12 future Hall of Famers—including Gretzky and Lemieux—and a thrilling final series against the Soviet Union. Other top squads include the undefeated 1976 team and the 1991, 1984, and 1976 champions. ”

“ This Canadian team was an interesting blend of pure offensive skill, as reflected by a young Lemieux and a cadre of Edmonton Oilers stars led by Gretzky and future Hall of Famers Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffey and Mark Messier; and good old-fashioned Canadian grit and scrappiness as illustrated by the presence of players such as Rick Tocchet, Kevin Dineen, Brent Sutter, Claude Lemieux and Doug Gilmour.”

On defense…Bourque, Coffey, Patrick, and Larry Murphy in his prime.

I normally don’t bother replying to a post, but I just sometimes feel the need to educate the stupid….

I re-watched the 87 Finals a few years ago. Man, some pretty great hockey there. You folk that have never seen it search it out.

It was awesome. You knew at the time you were watching once in a lifetime hockey.

[theograce]

It was awesome. You knew at the time you were watching once in a lifetime hockey.

What made it once in a lifetime?